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Post by Erik-El on Nov 19, 2010 15:34:08 GMT -5
Kirk is awesome. Just not as awesome as Picard. Truth.
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Post by Gender on Nov 19, 2010 16:07:41 GMT -5
Kirk is awesome. Just not as awesome as Picard. Truth. Just awsome enough to land himself a day. =) Attachments:
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 19, 2010 16:13:58 GMT -5
@azure:
Lol that is awesome! I exalt thee!
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Post by Gender on Nov 19, 2010 16:23:22 GMT -5
@azure: Lol that is awesome! I exalt thee! Exalted for Exalting me . Honestly poor Picard having to explain to the Admiral, what the heck was Captain Picard Day was. " Yes yes it's for the children, [Laughter]... I'm a role model." Admiral just looks on very cold, " I'm sure you are, Starfleet out." Picards smile slowly faded, poor Picard.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 19, 2010 16:38:30 GMT -5
@azure: Lol that is awesome! I exalt thee! Exalted for Exalting me . Honestly poor Picard having to explain to the Admiral, what the heck was Captain Picard Day was. " Yes yes it's for the children, [Laughter]... I'm a role model." Admiral just looks on very cold, " I'm sure you are, Starfleet out." Picards smile slowly faded, poor Picard. Well to be fair, it seemed like everyone at a higher rank than Picard were pretty much drooling onto bibs with some of the stuff they did. So a few handicapped people not noticing Picard's supreme everything matters not.
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Post by Gender on Nov 19, 2010 17:38:19 GMT -5
Well to be fair, it seemed like everyone at a higher rank than Picard were pretty much drooling onto bibs with some of the stuff they did. So a few handicapped people not noticing Picard's supreme everything matters not. Not just higher ups in Starfleet, Picard had Nigh Omnipotents all over him, sometimes with some fairly hilarious out of context conversations. Lol context.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 19, 2010 17:39:59 GMT -5
Lol.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Nov 19, 2010 18:54:59 GMT -5
lol!
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Post by Gender on Dec 6, 2010 10:47:39 GMT -5
Anyone have any particular favorite episodes? Like Data's Day or Inner Light?
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Dec 11, 2010 20:44:57 GMT -5
How can anyone not believe that Captain Benjamin Sisko is the best captain? He was as diplomatic and strategic as Picard and as physically threatening as half-shirt torn Kirk. He punched out the Q, flew the most badass ship, fought an interstellar war, and was able to not be tricked by Garak. His feats make Picard and Kirk look like children.
Elim Garak is easily the best character in the show.
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Post by Gender on Dec 13, 2010 21:07:56 GMT -5
How can anyone not believe that Captain Benjamin Sisko is the best captain? He was as diplomatic and strategic as Picard and as physically threatening as half-shirt torn Kirk. He punched out the Q, flew the most badass ship, fought an interstellar war, and was able to not be tricked by Garak. His feats make Picard and Kirk look like children. Elim Garak is easily the best character in the show. Wait a second, Q was only knocked onto the ground. If Q was serious about boxing Sisko, that wouldn't have happened lol. Infact it's a showing that Sisko has less self control than Picard does earlier in the series lol. Plus Picard saved the Federation and the entire planet quite a few times over, remember that little anti time fiasco? Time skipping Picard went through 3 Enterprises to close that thing.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 13, 2010 21:18:15 GMT -5
Picard is the best captain, that is an objective fact.
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Post by Gender on Dec 13, 2010 22:14:00 GMT -5
Picard is the best captain, that is an objective fact. So true. He taught me what it means to be human and have a glorious beard. As for Sisko he had his moments, although look at what happened when he ran into Picard: And all it took was one trip to Vegas to have them both posing on the D in dress uniform. Thats how much of a smoothe talker Picard is. Who else thinks this would be a hilarious? Attachments:
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 1, 2011 23:47:47 GMT -5
How can anyone not believe that Captain Benjamin Sisko is the best captain? He was as diplomatic and strategic as Picard and as physically threatening as half-shirt torn Kirk. He punched out the Q, flew the most badass ship, fought an interstellar war, and was able to not be tricked by Garak. His feats make Picard and Kirk look like children. Elim Garak is easily the best character in the show. Wait a second, Q was only knocked onto the ground. If Q was serious about boxing Sisko, that wouldn't have happened lol. Infact it's a showing that Sisko has less self control than Picard does earlier in the series lol. Plus Picard saved the Federation and the entire planet quite a few times over, remember that little anti time fiasco? Time skipping Picard went through 3 Enterprises to close that thing. And you don't think leading to a victory against an alien invasion (Founders) or simply preventing wars because the adversaries who may attack have that much respect for your combat/tactical ability (like the Cardasians did several times) sin't saving the Federation. I liked Sisko because Of his defieance when his orders were contrary to his own conscience (like when he went into the delta quadrant to get Odo back)
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 2, 2011 9:10:03 GMT -5
On another note, I personally wish that they made a show of the I.K.S Gorkon. Of all the Star Trek books I've read the adventures of that Klingon ship drew me in the most. I litterally couldn't put any of the books down (and couldn't wait for the next one)
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 2, 2011 12:30:32 GMT -5
@beatboks:
All of the Captains were known for defying orders when it went against their own personal code.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Apr 2, 2011 14:26:56 GMT -5
And Janeway was known for defying orders whenever the hell she felt like it.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 2, 2011 15:24:55 GMT -5
And Janeway was known for defying orders whenever the hell she felt like it. Well Janeway was the worst captain seen on Star Trek so far.
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 2, 2011 17:31:24 GMT -5
@beatboks: All of the Captains were known for defying orders when it went against their own personal code. The other captains usually only defied order when they felt the orders went against Starfeet principles (like the prime directive), or if they thought following those orders would be a defeat for Starfleet. Most (if not all like Kirk) of their order defying was in the movies not in the actual series. In fact in TOS Kirk was quite the little follower (on those rare occasions he had any orders). The one Star Trek character who's irreverence matched Sisko's was Riker. The others (in series) were actually good little officers. Sisko ignored an order every other ep. Phantom Stargrave, how exactly did Janeway defy orders. For most of the her run she was in isolation from Starfleet with no contact. When starfleet made contact (pathfinder) they only gave her one order which she followed. Her command officers diobeyed her regularly in the first few seasons.
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Post by Gender on Apr 20, 2011 21:22:12 GMT -5
@beatboks: All of the Captains were known for defying orders when it went against their own personal code. The other captains usually only defied order when they felt the orders went against Starfeet principles (like the prime directive), or if they thought following those orders would be a defeat for Starfleet. Most (if not all like Kirk) of their order defying was in the movies not in the actual series. In fact in TOS Kirk was quite the little follower (on those rare occasions he had any orders). The one Star Trek character who's irreverence matched Sisko's was Riker. The others (in series) were actually good little officers. Sisko ignored an order every other ep. Phantom Stargrave, how exactly did Janeway defy orders. For most of the her run she was in isolation from Starfleet with no contact. When starfleet made contact (pathfinder) they only gave her one order which she followed. Her command officers diobeyed her regularly in the first few seasons. Prime Directive, I remember Janeway essentially marching the last member of entire race into the Borg's hands. I did enjoy some bits from board why they discuss she was a terrible captain: -janeway the only captain to risk her crews lives for coffee in a sentient nebula - Janeway began to discuss and strategize with Seven instead of her 1st officer for crying out loud. -BUT the ONE TIME Tom Paris <who I thought was cool> disobeys her to save an entire friggin planet and race, she grabs him up takes away his rank, busts him down and throws him in the brig solitary confinement style for months. AFTER JUST ONE TIME!!!! -she ran really boring holodeck programs -I remember one show where they came across a section of space that had CLEAR warning signs to stay out. It would take a year to go around or 3 months to go through. She said screw the prime directive and all protocols and just go through. That almost blew up her ship from space mines in the area. -Well, her being a woman is actually consistent with her erratic illogical behaviour that changes dramatically every week - LOL at this one - CRIMINAL: Oh whats that, we have to go through Borg space but cant cause we would get killed' 'I will make an appeal to the Borg, I help them develop MASS MURDERING BIO WEAPONS to use in a war THEY started so I can get my 150 crew members home. Its not like we are giving the Borg the means to potentially assimilate another species and making Earth a prime target for SPECIES 8472 to invade and exterminate Earth. INCOMPETENT: OH, we only asked for them to take us to the edge of Borg space in the deal. Clearly, Janeway never got the mail that the Borg have had transwarp technology even during this time so why the hell didnt she just say, give us a transwarp drive ? INCONSISTANT: Yeah, I was willing to strand my crew in a hostile region of space to save a race that I had no business messing with their development. Prime Directive, hah I dont need no prime directive because my daddies an Admiral who got me my job can I can just whine to him if any mean Starfleet officers say I was being bad. On the otherhand, I will sit back and let an entire species suffer extinction because its 'not right to interfere' and extinction is a natural process of evolution. So if S8472 massacre the Borg... whats the difference ? Oh right, you only interfere when its CONVINIENT and on the behalf of your ENEMY who is going to backstab you at the earliest opportunity. Nevermind you are once again giving the Borg BIOWEAPONS of massive destruction that will either: A) Allow them to exterminate S8472 completely - Hows that genocide working for you Janeway B) Allow them to ASSIMILATE S8472 - Borg drones with S8472 Technology, goodbye Federation Sorry, but anyone who thinks Janeway is in ANY way a good captain needs to realise that she is resposible for multiple counts of terrorism, genocide and mass murder because of her own selfish actions. Endgame clearly illustrates this. She didnt go back to save her crew, they were all there happily living their new lives when they got home. However, she goes on for years then suddenly decides life is no fun without Seven and decides to unilateraly change the entire fate of the Federation on a whim. When she has that conversation with herself in the current timeline: Admiral Janeway: 'I'm offering you the chance to get home right now' Captain Janeway: *hums loudly* Prime Directive, I will convienently obey it now. Admiral Janeway: ' If you take the long way home, 22 crew members of your crew will die' Captain Janeway: 'Thats the way its meant to be, prime directive' Admiral Janeway: ' Seven is going to die' Captain Janeway: ' Screw the prime directive' Captain Janeway should have been thrown in the brig the moment she got back to starfleet and promptly executed for war crimes. Failing, that stripped of her rank and booted out of starfleet. Sadly, it would appear this never happened. Etc, these threads are hilarious.
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