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Post by Power NeXus on May 28, 2011 12:37:54 GMT -5
If he is, I can't find him.
Klaus Vorhees, the Daredevil/Spider-Man villian. I believe I heard he has some martial arts feats. I thought maybe somebody else here would know more about him.
I can't find him on the list anywhere :/
He may not have training in any particular martial arts, but it's apparent that the nature of his powers give him a nice level of fighting skill. There are quite a few people on the list who aren't trained in actual martial arts, but have developed a unique personal fighting style around their powers.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on May 28, 2011 12:40:22 GMT -5
Believe me, WW is much higher than that. I am compiling the respect thread to end all respect threads for her. I said at least Med 5. Where would you say she was? And then I'll disagree with you.
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Post by Erik-El on May 28, 2011 12:47:54 GMT -5
Believe me, WW is much higher than that. I am compiling the respect thread to end all respect threads for her. I said at least Med 5. Where would you say she was? And then I'll disagree with you. Why do you think I lowered her for now? Because a lot of people think user ignorance is a justifiable reason to lower her stats. Once I get the thread up, I will give her proper rank again.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on May 28, 2011 13:36:42 GMT -5
I said at least Med 5. Where would you say she was? And then I'll disagree with you. Why do you think I lowered her for now? Because a lot of people think user ignorance is a justifiable reason to lower her stats. Once I get the thread up, I will give her proper rank again. I think people just didn't notice she was there until I brought her up.
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Post by Power NeXus on May 28, 2011 13:49:34 GMT -5
Why do you think I lowered her for now? Because a lot of people think user ignorance is a justifiable reason to lower her stats. Once I get the thread up, I will give her proper rank again. I think people just didn't notice she was there until I brought her up. I noticed she was there, and I thought that was kinda a low ranking for her. But then I figured that pretty much everyone knows more about WW than I do, so I'd just trust the judgement of whoever put her there. :/
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Post by Erik-El on May 28, 2011 13:53:53 GMT -5
Not to worry. I know her proper placing. I will move it once I can prove it to the naysayers.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on May 28, 2011 14:34:09 GMT -5
I can imagine, Erik getting ready to put her in a place. Making this big presentation. And they just say "yes, sure." to his ranking. He'd be like, "...but I made a presentation. "
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Post by Erik-El on May 28, 2011 14:37:44 GMT -5
Oh I already know I will get a fight from my placement. I already did when she was appropriately placed before.
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Post by Morpheus on May 28, 2011 16:06:22 GMT -5
If he is, I can't find him. Klaus Vorhees, the Daredevil/Spider-Man villian. I believe I heard he has some martial arts feats. I thought maybe somebody else here would know more about him. I can't find him on the list anywhere :/ He may not have training in any particular martial arts, but it's apparent that the nature of his powers give him a nice level of fighting skill. There are quite a few people on the list who aren't trained in actual martial arts, but have developed a unique personal fighting style around their powers. I don't feel like searching, but we can always have K4tz, and Barbatos (re)evaluate Melvin and JPV, respectively.
Oh, then we definitely have not ranked him. It's been a long while since I read any material with him (he was in Bru's Captain America but I don't recall him doing much) so I cannot be sure until I reread some of those issues.
I don't think it gives him any "skill" per se. His ability enables him to accurately estimate what his opponent's next move will be, and appropriately react to it. I understand the point you're making, I'm just at a loss about how to rank such a guy.
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Post by Painkiller on May 28, 2011 16:17:24 GMT -5
Kick-Ass is a 2. Nothing he has done in the series warrants more than that unless you consider getting his head beat in a feat for 3. He's had some training from Hit-Girl in Kick-Ass 2.
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Post by Erik-El on May 28, 2011 16:57:26 GMT -5
Kick-Ass is a 2. Nothing he has done in the series warrants more than that unless you consider getting his head beat in a feat for 3. He's had some training from Hit-Girl in Kick-Ass 2. For how long? A week? A month? That is still nothing beyond what weekend self defense classes provide.
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Post by Painkiller on May 28, 2011 17:06:27 GMT -5
He's had some training from Hit-Girl in Kick-Ass 2. For how long? A week? A month? That is still nothing beyond what weekend self defense classes provide. Hmmm, good point. But hasn't Dave himself gone to a few self-defense classes himself?
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2011 17:09:17 GMT -5
Kick-Ass really only does well in combat because of the metal plates he has in his body, allowing him to withstand more punishment. Aside from that, he's an average kid. As for his training with Hit-Girl, I guess we'll have to wait and see if that generates results.
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Post by Morpheus on May 28, 2011 17:16:48 GMT -5
@ K4tz - Give your views on Gladiator.
...Yes, the cosmic one.
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Post by ckal on May 28, 2011 18:49:17 GMT -5
cosmic Gladiator? uhhh
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Post by Morpheus on May 28, 2011 19:03:03 GMT -5
Just kidding. Even though the handbook gives Kallark a 6. God knows why.
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Post by ckal on May 28, 2011 19:31:39 GMT -5
Lmao. Cosmic characters are pretty hard to rank because they rarely show h2h skills. Then again, that's not what they are really about.
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2011 20:03:28 GMT -5
@ K4tz - Give your views on Gladiator. Despite Murdock's remark on him having "serious skill," I'd suggest a a medium 4. Also, I noticed Hawkeye is a medium 4, yet Thing is a high 4? I sense a flaw....
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Post by Morpheus on May 28, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -5
I think Hawkeye could be a low 5 by our standards. Sure, most of the time he does utilize a variety of weapons in his fights, but his track-record isn't bad and he certainly had a lot more training and experience than others in that rank. We could place him at high 4 at the least.
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2011 20:11:40 GMT -5
I think Hawkeye could be a low 5 by our standards. Sure, most of the time he does utilize a variety of weapons in his fights, but his track-record isn't bad and he certainly had a lot more training and experience than others in that rank. We could place him at high 4 at the least. I'm fine with either adjustment. After all, I pointed it out because it just doesn't seem fitting for him to be a medium. I think we should begin working through re-evaluating the 4s.
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