Comic character fighting skill rankings

[Admin]

May 2, 2011 15:54:04 GMT -5 ckal said:

Im sure you will all agree their ranking should be based on what they have shown so far in comics, taking everything into account.

The OP even states that.

[Admin]

I believe Drakon is up for debate.

[Morpheus]

I haven't read all of Dragon's appearances, but from what I've seen he'd likely be a 7. Shiva, too.


We had an exchange with K4tz concerning Drakon. Let me repost my opinion.


As for Bronze Tiger, it is conceivable to name him a 7. I wouldn't rank him at the top 3 by any means, though.

[Morpheus]

K4tz's opinion about Drakon:

Drakon is a tough man to read and comparing their feats is tough for me. Naturally, Drakon would win because his sheer level of speed makes him seem virtually untouchable again street level foes, regardless of their skill. But SM's (does he have a real name?) display of pure skill left me extremely impressed. That's not to say Drakon is poorly skilled by any means. He clearly knows his stuff, as remarked on by his enemies (ie Connor remarking on him knowing where to hit) and through his displays/confident remarks on his own skill in combat...But it's tough to speculate on how he'd cope without that massive speed advantage.

My reply:

Exactly. We have even seen Drakon use nerve strikes, and he does not randomly strike at his opponents by any stretch of the imagination, but the gap in speed between him and his opponents is so vast, that, while we definitely know he is good, it's literally impossible to estimate just how good he is.

[Supreme Marvel]

Also, I'm certain Drakon never goes fall out.

[Admin]

SM = Silver Monkey, btw.

[ckal]

Sm- just about everyone has a low moment or poor showing, but to be a top tier 7, I would have to say those moments should be pretty limited

[Supreme Marvel]

Catman getting a hit on Ben Turner is the lowest moment of his life.

[Morpheus]

May 2, 2011 16:04:57 GMT -5 Supreme Marvel said:

Also, I'm certain Drakon never goes fall out.

I believe his only issue is with killing. He won't kill an opponent unless someone specifically pays him to do so. However, he generally seems to enjoy toying eith others and taking his time with them, so it is reasonable to say he rarely fights at 100%.

[Admin]

What do you guys think about:
Bane - 6
Catman - 4
Batman - 7
Steve Rogers - 6 or 7?

[Supreme Marvel]

So when he needs to, the Greek can up his game and go for the kill.

[Morpheus]

May 2, 2011 16:10:15 GMT -5 Admin said:

What do you guys think about:
Bane - 6
Catman - 4
Batman - 7
Steve Rogers - 6 or 7?

I'm OK with that. I think a case can be done for Steve to be either a 6, or a 7. Let's hear more opinions before settling it.

So when he needs to, the Greek can up his game and go for the kill.

Pretty much what I think, yes.

[Admin]

Yes, but the difficulty in judging just HOW skilled he is comes with the fact his speed gives him a massive advantage over street level enemies. So even if Drakon is less skilled than Connor, he can still beat him with little to no effort thanks to his speed. But is he truly less skilled and the speed makes up the difference, or is he on par in skill and the speed advantage allows it to be such a stomp? That's the million dollar question.

[Morpheus]

The question was regarding Drakon's compulsion to go all out against an opponent (or, more accurately, the lack of it), not how much of his ability is sheer skill and/or speed.

[ckal]

Enhanced stats should be taken into account when determining skill. BUT, some people get too carried away with guys like black panther and think all his showings are attributed to just his enhanced stats, which is clearly not true. What I've seen of cap is tha he is very skilled, and his stats just enhance his skills. Not the other way around.

Here's a couple interesting ones: wolverine and black panther

[Supreme Marvel]

Connor Hawke is also a skilful fighter.

[Admin]

May 2, 2011 16:19:29 GMT -5 Morpheus said:

The question was regarding Drakon's compulsion to go all out against an opponent (or, more accurately, the lack of it), not how much of his ability is sheer skill and/or speed.

I know, I just wanted elaborate on my thoughts

[Morpheus]

I'm torn between ranking him at 6, or 7.

[Supreme Marvel]

How about Cassandra Cain?

[Morpheus]

* regarding Connor.