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Post by Admin on May 13, 2011 18:05:59 GMT -5
Who do you believe are the best assassins and mercenaries in each company/universe and why? We're not limiting this to the top spot. We can discuss who we believe should make the top 10, or even 20. What about overall for each title when looking at every company? Discuss!
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:09:28 GMT -5
DC: Deathstroke Marvel: Wolverine Top Cow: Ian Notthingham (not open to debate) IDW: Snake Eyes.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 13, 2011 18:28:42 GMT -5
In all fairness, Ian doesn't have much competition to begin with. Top Cow's not known for super assassins.
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Post by Morpheus on May 13, 2011 18:28:53 GMT -5
I think Stroke is arguably DC's best mercenary but being a mercenary and being an assassin are separate things, even though they can occasionally coincide.
I'd say Taskmaster is Marvel's best merc, while Bullseye (or Elektra) are the best assassins.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:30:07 GMT -5
Top Cow's not known for super assassins. Tora No Shi? Wolf? Hunter-Killer are a team of assassins? Aphrodite X and Aphrodite IV? I can add more... There are plenty of assassins in Top Cow most just tend to die before they get a name.
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2011 18:30:45 GMT -5
I think Stroke is arguably DC's best mercenary but being a mercenary and being an assassin are separate things, even though they can occasionally coincide.
I'd say Taskmaster is Marvel's best merc, while Bullseye (or Elektra) are the best assassins. Well, we can always create two different categories for each. I'll edit the OP.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 13, 2011 18:31:25 GMT -5
There are plenty of assassins in Top Cow most just tend to die before they get a name. That's kinda the point I was trying to make.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:32:17 GMT -5
Deathstroke is the best assassin in DC even if people want to nitpick argue he's a merc. Since none of the "pure assassins" are better then him anyway and he does assassin work.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:33:00 GMT -5
That's kinda the point I was trying to make. Except as I point out, there are plenty of good ones and none can realistically be argued to be better then him.
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Post by Morpheus on May 13, 2011 18:33:47 GMT -5
He certainly does assassin work, but most of the time, there are limits he won't cross due to his code. Other assassins (like Cheshire) just nuke countries to get to a target. Stroke would not do that, trash writing aside.
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Post by Erik-El on May 13, 2011 18:36:20 GMT -5
I think Stroke is arguably DC's best mercenary but being a mercenary and being an assassin are separate things, even though they can occasionally coincide.
I'd say Taskmaster is Marvel's best merc, while Bullseye (or Elektra) are the best assassins. X-23 was a pretty amazing assassin.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:37:06 GMT -5
He certainly does assassin work and therefore qualifies as an assassin Cheshire) just nuke countries to get to a target. Stroke would not do that, trash writing aside. [/i][/quote] This is irrelevant really. Deathstroke is better then them, he wouldn't even need to go that far.
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Post by Morpheus on May 13, 2011 18:37:23 GMT -5
I think Stroke is arguably DC's best mercenary but being a mercenary and being an assassin are separate things, even though they can occasionally coincide.
I'd say Taskmaster is Marvel's best merc, while Bullseye (or Elektra) are the best assassins. X-23 was a pretty amazing assassin. True. I forgot about her. I recall Steve saying she's wanted for a myriad of executions.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:37:54 GMT -5
X-23 was a pretty amazing assassin. not as good as the g.insu cockroach thought
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2011 18:39:02 GMT -5
Splice.
/fanboy
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Post by Erik-El on May 13, 2011 18:40:50 GMT -5
X-23 was a pretty amazing assassin. not as good as the g.insu cockroach thought Well she did have a better track record. A perfect track record actually. Wolverine is more a warrior. X-23 is the assassin.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:42:38 GMT -5
Well she did have a better track record. A perfect track record actually. Wolverine is more a warrior. X-23 is the assassin. that's because Logan has been at it A LOT longer and comic writing to pimp her out with her creation. Really anything X-23 can do, the chain smoking roach can do better.
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Post by Morpheus on May 13, 2011 18:43:14 GMT -5
He certainly does assassin work and therefore qualifies as an assassin Cheshire) just nuke countries to get to a target. Stroke would not do that, trash writing aside. [/i][/quote] This is irrelevant really. Deathstroke is better then them, he wouldn't even need to go that far.[/quote] No one said he doesn't qualify as an assassin, but he primarily does merc work.
The point is that Deathstroke would by no means go that far. Is he craftier, more skilled, etch? Sure. Is he nearly as dedicated to do such a thing (kill millions to get to one) in spite of the cost? Likely not. Also, his code and various circumstances do prevent him from fulfilling contracts. Nightwing payed him off to withdraw from a hit and he accepted because he appreciated his courage to even try such a manoeuvre. Hence why I am more confident with placing him top merc rather than top assassin.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 18:45:42 GMT -5
Hence why I am more confident with placing him top merc rather than top assassin. [/i][/quote] And again, the reason why I disagree is capabilities. He is the most capable, were he not to have morals. None of these others could top him. He's more capable then them, what prevents him from completing contracts is not his skill.
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Post by Erik-El on May 13, 2011 18:47:27 GMT -5
Well she did have a better track record. A perfect track record actually. Wolverine is more a warrior. X-23 is the assassin. that's because Logan has been at it A LOT longer and comic writing to pimp her out with her creation. Really anything X-23 can do, the chain smoking roach can do better. X-23 beat Wolverine's kill times. He is unarguably the better fighter and warrior. But she was born into assassination. That does not require as much H2H knowledge or a code of honor.
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