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Post by Morpheus on Jun 12, 2011 16:47:54 GMT -5
Escape from Bizarro World, Brainiac, Superman and the Legion of Superheroes were pretty good, too. I enjoyed all of them, but for me the most awesome one was Last Son. Then Legion of Superheroes, then Bizarro World and then Brainiac. Were all great. But not awesome. Legion would be close to awesome though.
I enjoyed Lex's "So this is what it feels like to kill a Kryptonian" line. Miracles don't exist. But Lex Luthor does.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 12, 2011 16:51:08 GMT -5
Hence why Lex is one of my all time favorite characters.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 12, 2011 16:52:46 GMT -5
Hence why Lex is one of my all time favorite characters. Because Geoff writes him as being awesome you mean?
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 12, 2011 16:53:40 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 12, 2011 16:55:02 GMT -5
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 12, 2011 16:55:54 GMT -5
He wrote the phrase you just concurred to, my little pony.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 12, 2011 16:56:32 GMT -5
That means dead/taken over by the ALE, not turned into Darkseid.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 12, 2011 17:00:29 GMT -5
I mean turned to Darkseid as in fell to his power. Like Wonder Woman etc.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 12, 2011 17:00:39 GMT -5
He wrote the phrase you just concurred to, my little pony. That's not really the only awesome thing ever written about the guy, you know...
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 12, 2011 17:01:24 GMT -5
He wrote the phrase you just concurred to, my little pony. That's not really the only awesome thing ever written about the guy, you know... No, but it's that phrase in particular that you agreed to. Accept the awesome, sir.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 12, 2011 17:02:50 GMT -5
IS there anything said about Uncle Sam in FC, or that just an off panel mention and nothing else? Was it even referenced later?
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 12, 2011 17:06:53 GMT -5
IS there anything said about Uncle Sam in FC, or that just an off panel mention and nothing else? Was it even referenced later? Well it's not "off-panel" because you can see it's on the panel.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 12, 2011 17:10:41 GMT -5
No, but it's that phrase in particular that you agreed to. Accept the awesome, sir. Hear that? That's the sound of your reality being rejected.
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Post by Soldier on Jun 12, 2011 20:47:32 GMT -5
SUPERMAN
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 27, 2011 11:26:35 GMT -5
Friday I had the opportunity to travel to New York City to attend DC Comic’s Retailer Roadshow to learn more about the upcoming launch of the new #1′s from DC. The presentation lasted almost 4 hours and gave retailers a glimpse into the ‘New 52′ which is what DC is branding the September launch. Retailers heard from John Rood (Executive VP-Sales, Marketing and Business Development), Bob Wayne (Senior VP-Sales), Vince Letterio (Director-Direct Sales) and Co-Publishers Dan Didio and Jim Lee. John Rood began the presentation with some slides showcasing the excitement that the announcement has already generated. He quickly turned the microphone over to Dan Didio and Jim Lee who talked about the fresh slate of books. Dan started out explaining why DC was doing this. DC had taken a look at the comics industry as a whole and felt that the industry needed a shot in the arm. They felt that the stories had gotten stale and too talky. Dan recounted a book he read recently from ‘another publisher’ that had 15 pages of 9 panels of exposition . He felt comics used to be able to do stories that movies couldn’t. Lately, comic book movies have been doing comics better than comics have. Dan felt that DC needed to work harder across the board to improve the product. DC wants to publish books that are fresh and exciting that can compete with the level of action that fans are finding on TV, in movies and video games and elsewhere. It was decided that changes needed to be made from top to bottom to achieve this. As an example, Dan emphatically stated that he was embarrassed, really embarrassed about late books. He said that some times because of the their love of the medium, talent would treat their jobs like it was a hobby and not, well, a job. Editorial has been tasked with delivering books on time. Dan even went so far as to use the G word. He guaranteed that the books in the new 52 will come out on time.
Another change DC is making is that they won’t be ‘writing for the trade’ anymore. Writers have been told to write the story they want to write and not worry about the trade collecting. If they can tell a well-paced story in 4 issues, they’ve been told not to pad it to make it 6 issues. Editorial can worry about how it’s going to be collected. Going forward, books will be trade-collected depending on how the story fits. If a book has a 4-issue arc followed by a 3 issue arc, the trade will collect both. If it’s 2 4-issue arcs or 3 2-issue stories, those will get collected. As a side note, DC is looking into a new trade dress to represent the New 52 and a better spine design to call out information for fans.
DC realized that some things were working fine. Based on sales, critical response and fan comments, they knew that Green Lantern and Batman weren’t ‘broken’. In approaching the re-launch, DC didn’t want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. They knew some things needed to be changed, but they didn’t want to lose the excitement behind what was working. Instead of a re-boot, they opted for a sliding re-launch. Continuity would be preserved and only where things weren’t working would there be changes. As such, there are are little to no changes in the Batman and Green Lantern books. When they re-launch in September they pick up right where they were in August. Green Lantern #1, Dan stated, picks up dealing with the repercussions of the ending of the War of Green Lanterns. He said he would love to say more, but that people in Editorial would kill him if he spoiled the ending of War of Green Lanterns and the aftermath books.
Based on sales, fan interest and a desire to branch out and try new things, DC has broken the New 52 into 7 distinctive families. Those families are: Superman, Batman, Justice League, Green Lantern, Young Justice, The Edge and The Dark. Dan and Jim went through title by title and gave quick little blurbs about them. I’ve included the most pertinent of them below.
Justice League Family
Justice League- The flagship title of the New 52. Jim Lee joked that if Geoff Johns had been there, Geoff would have said that he had always wanted to work with Jim. The three keywords here are Heart, Humor and Heroics. The first arc of this book takes place 5 years in the past and serves as a Year One story for the Justice League. In story, up until this point, there have been no ‘super-heroes’, just super powered individuals who have sometimes been viewed with suspicion. By banding together, the Justice League wants to show the world that they are deserving the moniker of super-hero.
Justice League International
Aquaman
Wonder Woman- Brian Azzarello is really capturing the warrior aspect of Diana with this book.
Flash
Captain Atom
Fury of Firestorm- Dan Didio said Ethan Van Scriver is a huge Firestorm fan and is bringing that passion to the story.
Green Arrow- Talking about his costume tweak, Jim Lee said that more people are familiar with the Smallville version of Green Arrow, so they decided to incorporate some of the elements from that costume.
Savage Hawkman
Mister Terrific- While they decided to rest the concept of the JSA, they are going to be using the characters elsewhere.
DC Universe Presents- This anthology title will feature revolving creative teams on characters as a testing board.
Superman Family
Action Comics- The only other title (along with Justice League) that will start out in the past. The first arc will detail Superman’s public debut. At this point, Dan Didio went on a tangent to explain that DC wanted to let go of the past and move forward. Any changes in continuity would be addressed in-story as needed, but that they really didn’t want to get bogged down so these reveals would be gradual and as they make sense in the story. There is a document in the DC offices that fleshes out exactly what has and hasn’t happened in the New 52 Universe. As an example, the Death of Superman storyline has occurred. See Batgirl below for another example.
Superman
Superboy
Supergirl- Another area of improvement DC is looking for is characters to sound true. Supergirl, as she has been written, sometimes comes across as mature and responsible as a 40 year-old adult. She shouldn’t. She’s a teen who is still finding herself and her character should reflect that.
Batman Family
Batman- One of the titles showing incremental growth has been Detective Comics. Based on this, DC moved Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo to Batman to continue the strong work.
Detective Comics
Batwing- Based on fan interest in this character from Batman Incorporated, DC wanted to give the character an ongoing title.
Batman: Dark Knight
Batman & Robin- The title will concentrate on the dynamic between Bruce and Damian Wayne.
Batgirl- Barbara Gordon is back as Batgirl. The events of Killing Joke and her tenure as Oracle have occurred and this title addresses her return to the role.
Batwoman- Yes, Dan Didio said to much applause, it will finally be published.
Nightwing- Every Dick Grayson fan should pick this book up.
Catwoman- The sexy side of Batman.
Birds of Prey- Barbara Gordon will still be part of the book.
Red Hood and the Outlaws- One of the most requested characters for a book is Jason Todd as an anti-hero.
Green Lantern Family
Green Lantern- The image (of a bloody fist thrust upward) associated with this book is not the cover. They are holding the actual cover back pending the conclusion of the War of Green Lantern.
Green Lantern Corps
Green Lantern: New Guardians- Again, the image associated with this book is not the cover. They want the identities of the New Guardians to remain concealed.
Red Lanterns- Fan interest in the Red Lantern Corps has been huge leading to DC giving the Corps an ongoing title.
Young Justice Family
Teen Titans- All four Robins star or co-star in a book. (I know, what about Stephanie Brown? It was hinted that we would see her in Batman Incorporated. Dan Didio said she worked better as Spoiler.) This book is Tim Drake’s showcase. There will be some synergy between this and Superboy.
Static Shock- They are taking Static out of Dakota and putting him in New York City and letting him interact with the heroes of the DCU.
Hawk and Dove- Jim Lee talked about how much passion Rob Leifeld is bringing to the title.
Blue Beetle- One of the titles they are hoping benefits from the excitement behind the re-launch.
Legion of Superheroes- Another title that is not changing it’s status quo, with the exception of the characters who are…
Legion Lost- Set in the present day DCU, seven Legionnaires are stranded after a mission to the 21st Century goes awry.
The Dark Family
Justice League Dark- The argument could be made to put this book into the Justice League Family, but any book that features John Constantine, Deadman, Enchantress, Madame Xandau, Zatanna and Shade, the Changing Man is going to be dark.
Swamp Thing- The best stuff that Scott Snyder has done. The flora of the DCU.
Animal Man- And the fauna of the DCU. Hearkening back to Grant Morrison’s take on the character, Jeff Lemire has some great things planned.
Frankenstein: Agent of SHADE- Dan Didio’s favorite book. Drawing on Grant Morrison’s portrayl of the character in Seven Soldiers of Victory, it will also feature the Creature Commandos.
I, Vampire- Tongue firmly in cheek, it was mentioned that vampires aren’t really that popular right now.
Resurrection Man- Another fan favorite request, DC has decided to resurrect the character. Dan Didio’s words, not mine!
Demon Knights- One of the things they wanted to do was show the breadth and depth of the DCU. This title highlights the DCU in the Dark Ages.
The Edge Family
Stormwatch
Voodoo- A sexy, spy thriller.
Grifter- Imagine Sawyer from Lost mixing it up with the heroes of the DCU.
Deathstroke
Suicide Squad- Combining elements from previous iterations of the Squad and the Secret Six with Harley Quinn’s fashion sense from the Arkham games.
O.M.A.C.- Dan Didio is working with Keith Giffen on this. Dan says this is Keith’s best work since…ever.
Blackhawks- They wanted a book that had a G.I. Joe feel to it, so they went out and got a G.I. Joe writer to work on it.
Men At War-This book will tell modern war stories and is tied into the DCU; most notably by making the main character the grandson of Sgt. Rock.
All-Star Western-This anthology book will star Jonah Hex in Gotham City in the 1880′s working aside Amadeus Arkham, a criminal psychologist. Back-up features will spotlight other DCU Western heroes.
All 52 books will be solicited in July’s Previews out this coming Wednesday. Each title will have it’s own full page write-up. 48 of the 52 books will ‘hold the line’ at $2.99. The remaining 4 books (Justice League, Action Comics, Men of War and All-Star Western) will retail at $3.99 and feature added content.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 27, 2011 11:27:22 GMT -5
I feel that info, was best to be put here. Also, the Doomsday event occurred as they've stated.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 27, 2011 13:38:29 GMT -5
Ron Marz will be writing in that section of the DCnu. And thus expanding energy better served being put in the millions time superior Top Cow universe
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 27, 2011 13:39:11 GMT -5
Good for me, not so good for you.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 27, 2011 13:40:24 GMT -5
Good for me, not so good for you. Indeed. wasted talent if you ask me.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 27, 2011 16:52:27 GMT -5
Good for me, not so good for you. Indeed. wasted talent if you ask me. It is not wasting talent to have a talented writer go where talent is needed.
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