Beatboks
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 21, 2011 1:26:29 GMT -5
All characters so far are approved. Just a quick question. I said I would stipulate that the baton lacks the ability to place a magnetic charge on an opponent if necessary. This allows the wielder to make his opponent a magnet with either the polarity to attract of repel (it was always one ability of the baton that I thought was a bit of a stretch even for a comics weapon). Is this necessary, or can I still use this ?
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 1:29:47 GMT -5
Powers-Exiles Gambit (He could accelerate an object's kinetic energy causing it to hit harder. Movie Gambit also exhibited similar abilities.) Skills-Captain America Item-Doc Ock's Tentacles (Standard Titanium x 4 or Adamantium x 2 if possible)
Trainer-Bullseye
So we can only use weapons we can acquire through the black market? Can we use other equipment?
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 1:49:54 GMT -5
@beatboks I'm not too fussed. I think there is enough about things to still be challenging unless you go around magnetizing everyone you meet.
@dedman Yeah, sounds fine although I'm like 90% certain when you make your scenario it'll result in something outrageous. If you think it will now, just say so and save yourself from making something I'll pull you up on.
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 21, 2011 2:07:16 GMT -5
@beatboks I'm not too fussed. I think there is enough about things to still be challenging unless you go around magnetizing everyone you meet. It wasn't something that Shaw used very often (in fact only twice I can recall). I figure it's a last ditch thing to use when he's out of options. I also figure since the twice he did use it he never used the baton afterward for the battle that it completely expends the baton's charge in one go (and probably requires a full charge to pull off). I figure these since he also only used it against the two characters who'd kicked his but every other outing. Just thought if he could I might have a fighting chance against Tombstone (who was the one area I had no clue how I was going to survive let alone beat on the CV version( at the time I'd completely miss remembered the batons functions but have since reread my Manhunter series). Still not sure how it might get me a win there but it gives me more to fight with.
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 2:48:38 GMT -5
Dane's NinjaPowers: Zeratul - Shadow Cloaking, Shadow Blink, Void Prison. Abilities: Snake Eyes - Martial Arts, Ninja Skills, Tactics and Knowledge. Equipment: Raiden - Cybernetic Body, High Freqency Katana, Tanto, Throwing Knives, Silenced SOCOM .45. Trainer: Bruce Wayne.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 2:54:02 GMT -5
Not to be too technical here but all Protoss abilities are derived directly from telepathy and telekinesis which are both banned. Also, almost all Protoss abilities require specialized focusing crystals and equipment.
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 2:54:39 GMT -5
@beatboks I'm not too fussed. I think there is enough about things to still be challenging unless you go around magnetizing everyone you meet. It wasn't something that Shaw used very often (in fact only twice I can recall). I figure it's a last ditch thing to use when he's out of options. I also figure since the twice he did use it he never used the baton afterward for the battle that it completely expends the baton's charge in one go (and probably requires a full charge to pull off). I figure these since he also only used it against the two characters who'd kicked his but every other outing. Just thought if he could I might have a fighting chance against Tombstone (who was the one area I had no clue how I was going to survive let alone beat on the CV version( at the time I'd completely miss remembered the batons functions but have since reread my Manhunter series). Still not sure how it might get me a win there but it gives me more to fight with. The problem is: A) You can use any special item in any Universe pretty much. Anyone with an Ebony Blade, Lightsaber, Muramasa, etc would take Tombstone apart. B) Tombstone is a great challenge for any street-level character. That is why he's in the thread. He can be beaten though.
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 2:58:34 GMT -5
Not to be too technical here but all Protoss abilities are derived directly from telepathy and telekinesis which are both banned. Also, almost all Protoss abilities require specialized focusing crystals and equipment. Dark Templar physically cut out their extrasensory organs that allow Protoss to use telepathy and telekinesis. Not all psionic abilities are telepathic or telekinetic. Zeratul blends with shadows to cloak and teleport through them. That isn't telepathy or telekinesis. If you're willing to argue it, feel free though. My character is as open to critique as anyone elses.
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 3:00:08 GMT -5
This is a good video of Zeratul in combat. To any who believe my use of his shadow cloaking and blinking (teleporting) are against the rules, feel free to speak up. I am not beyond reproach and if I've overstepped the line I will remake my character.
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Beatboks
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 21, 2011 3:56:59 GMT -5
It wasn't something that Shaw used very often (in fact only twice I can recall). I figure it's a last ditch thing to use when he's out of options. I also figure since the twice he did use it he never used the baton afterward for the battle that it completely expends the baton's charge in one go (and probably requires a full charge to pull off). I figure these since he also only used it against the two characters who'd kicked his but every other outing. Just thought if he could I might have a fighting chance against Tombstone (who was the one area I had no clue how I was going to survive let alone beat on the CV version( at the time I'd completely miss remembered the batons functions but have since reread my Manhunter series). Still not sure how it might get me a win there but it gives me more to fight with. The problem is: A) You can use any special item in any Universe pretty much. Anyone with an Ebony Blade, Lightsaber, Muramasa, etc would take Tombstone apart. B) Tombstone is a great challenge for any street-level character. That is why he's in the thread. He can be beaten though. I'll still stick with the manhunter battle staff. It's not as offensive a weapon as others that would allow a win against Tombstone, so requires a little more creativity to come up with just the right scenario (which IMO is the fun of these threads). I was just explaining that I don't believe (based on showings of the weapon) that it would be possible to simply magnetize "everyone". I notice everyone else has "All" the gear of the character who's special item they've chosen. I will also not worry about the rest of Shaw's gear because. 1) having Argus's senses negates the need for the vision capabilities of the manhunter mask leaving only the "omnidirectional mike" 2. the healing factor of Argus also makes the need for the Kevlar suit and breathing unit in the mask somewhat redundant (so I figure it's pointless to add the extra weight and reduce agility for it)
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 4:02:19 GMT -5
@beatboks Yeah, I know. It's a good thing it can't magnetize everyone or it'd be slightly overpowered to an extent.
Back when I made this thread I used to allow "All" the gear of a character just because I thought you'd feel a bit munted if you had the Iron Spider suit and no webshooters. If you got Batman's Suit and no Utility Belt, etc. I wanted people to be able to emulate a character to whatever extent fit within the rules.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 4:04:37 GMT -5
That is not exactly right, the Dark Templar actually just cut out the nerves that connect them to the communal link that the Khalai established to bring order after the Aeon of Strife. If they completely removed their telepathy, they would be unable to speak as they have no mouths and rely upon telepathy completely for communication. The Warp Blade, Zeratul's weapon, is just a better psionic blade which functions similarly to Psylocke's psionic blades. Protoss actually metabolize light like Cyclops or Superman metabolize sunlight. Dark Templar have either through evolution or science found a way to metabolize darkness or the Void that makes up most of space and the perpetually dark planet of Shakuras. Without the technology and psionics to back it up, Zeratul is basically an especially agile old man. Also, Protoss hands are nearly double the size of Terran hands which means he won't be able to use any guns. Hopefully this image works. While I applaud the usage of Starcraft characters, I don't think Protoss characters can be allowed given your rules. I have previously considered using them in threads and even I thought they would breach the rules. I love Starcraft, by the way, good to know you have an interest in it as well.
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Post by Dane on Aug 21, 2011 4:40:23 GMT -5
@dedman you misunderstand. I'm not taking his body. The same as if you wanted Gambit's powers you wouldn't literally become Gambit. I just wanted his void/shadow powers.
I was under the impression they severed the entire organ. If it's just the nerves I really don't see the difference. Either way they remove their psionic link to the Khalai. I realize they still have a degree of telepathy and psionic abilities but I'm not interested in Zeratul's telepathy. I just wanted his cloaking and blinking.
Even if you say it's not acceptable I can still stealth with Raiden's cybernetic body's optical camouflage and I'll just use Nightcrawler's teleporting. All the same really.
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Post by Power NeXus on Aug 21, 2011 13:21:27 GMT -5
Powers-Exiles Gambit (He could accelerate an object's kinetic energy causing it to hit harder. Movie Gambit also exhibited similar abilities.) Skills-Captain America Item-Doc Ock's Tentacles (Standard Titanium x 4 or Adamantium x 2 if possible) Trainer-Bullseye So we can only use weapons we can acquire through the black market? Can we use other equipment? *sigh* This only serves to remind me that there's still a lot of Exiles material I haven't found yet.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 13:49:01 GMT -5
What you might have misunderstood is that they do surgically alter their psionic organs to give off less psionic energy than the Protoss so as to make detection by the Protoss less possible. Think of removing their psionic link to the Khalai as what we would call going off the grid. They leave no psionic paper trail for anyone to be able to track. Adun, as in Citadel of Adun, taught the Dark Templar how to do this so that they could not be found by the Khalai and killed for wanting to be independent.
I don't have any control over whether or not it is acceptable but the Protoss are pretty much like low level versions of X-man and I don't think it should be allowed.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 14:16:39 GMT -5
The Gambit of which I speak was actually apart of the Weapon X team not the Exiles team. But yes, the Exiles is something you definitely need to finish as it is awesome.
Also, Dane, could I get a ruling on the two questions I asked. I assume I'll get Doc Ock's titanium arms but I would like to know if I could get other equipment through the black market. Specifically, I would like a riot shield with a lights, Nightvision Goggles, smoke bombs, a long range microphone, and an IR Scoped PSG-1. All of the power sources are likely incompatible with the walkie talkie that we use to call in support so I can't use them to get more support calls. I am cool with stipulating this before hand just in case so that there are no issues.
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Post by Power NeXus on Aug 21, 2011 15:30:38 GMT -5
Before I make my character, I have a question. Do you want us to be going with comic characters only, or are we allowed to use other mediums as well. The medium I'm specifically thinking about is Avatar. I'd like to know if any bending powers are allowed.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Aug 21, 2011 16:07:57 GMT -5
Are you thinking Zuko or Toph?
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Post by Power NeXus on Aug 21, 2011 16:09:57 GMT -5
Mostly Toph or Katara. It's not too difficult to find an adequate substitute for firebending from a Marvel character.
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Post by Power NeXus on Aug 21, 2011 16:13:06 GMT -5
Also, how well are the hospitals in Gotham maintained? I'm not the type to kill my enemies, and I'm not sure I want to go through the effort to incapacitate all of them and keep them under wraps. However, I don't really have a problem with crippling them.
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