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Post by creator on Jun 3, 2011 11:45:08 GMT -5
Thanks Creator. That post was pretty educational...lol As for your question, no, that feat happened way before his upgrade. it took place in Amazing Spider-man #320. Also, i would like to add something. It seems that the tank that Spidey lifted, weight less than 10 tons bot not by a large margin. But Peter did not seem to struggle lifting it. Actually he has done pretty easily. Something that makes me think that Pete can lift much more than 8 and even 10 tons. Btw, what do you believe about that scan creator? www.comicvine.com/myvine/spidey_15/all-images/108-352090/aspssupstre/105-1304920/I take your point on the tank. Ease of lifting does count. A boxcar (empty) can be less than 10 tonnes but I favour him being above 10 tonnes now.
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Post by Admin on Jun 3, 2011 11:45:32 GMT -5
Deathlok (Collins) can lift a maximum of 85 tons. Question: Shall we put him in at an actual 85 tonnes or shall we pitch him a rank or 2 below the thing if we believe the Think is at 100 tonnes, but shows feat that put him at tenns of thousands of tonnes + strength ? I'm still researching the character, but due to his morals I haven't seen him truly unleash in regards to strength. As you can see in his fight with Silvermane, he remarks he's holding back because he doesn't want to inflict fatal damage, despite it being his foe. He has assorted strength related feats, but nothing I imagine that would warrant him reaching that 85 ton mark. Or at least so far based on my reading. Based on that, I think placing him a notch or two below Thing seems fair.
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Post by creator on Jun 3, 2011 11:46:06 GMT -5
Deathlok (Collins) can lift a maximum of 85 tons. Thanks for the Info K4tz. Nice to see you join the thread I could really use the help. Question: Shall we put him in at an actual 85 tonnes or shall we pitch him a rank or 2 below the thing if we believe the Think is at 100 tonnes, but shows feat that put him at tenns of thousands of tonnes + strength ? Katz, you may have missed the question I added afterwards. Have a look and let me know what you think.
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Post by creator on Jun 3, 2011 11:46:34 GMT -5
When you're not busy with other characters, I'd love to have you calculate how strong you believe Brick is. I'll provide scans when you have time. Hit me with em and I'll do my best
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 11:47:18 GMT -5
Thanks Creator. That post was pretty educational...lol As for your question, no, that feat happened way before his upgrade. it took place in Amazing Spider-man #320. Also, i would like to add something. It seems that the tank that Spidey lifted, weight less than 10 tons bot not by a large margin. But Peter did not seem to struggle lifting it. Actually he has done pretty easily. Something that makes me think that Pete can lift much more than 8 and even 10 tons. Btw, what do you believe about that scan creator? www.comicvine.com/myvine/spidey_15/all-images/108-352090/aspssupstre/105-1304920/I take your point on the tank. Ease of lifting does count. A boxcar (empty) can be less than 10 tonnes but I favour him being above 10 tonnes now. Cool, thanks man.
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Post by Admin on Jun 3, 2011 11:48:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the Info K4tz. Nice to see you join the thread I could really use the help. Question: Shall we put him in at an actual 85 tonnes or shall we pitch him a rank or 2 below the thing if we believe the Think is at 100 tonnes, but shows feat that put him at tenns of thousands of tonnes + strength ? Katz, you may have missed the question I added afterwards. Have a look and let me know what you think. It's right above your post, good sir I'll see if I can compile my Brick scans. I'm really interested in seeing his estimated level of strength.
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Post by Admin on Jun 3, 2011 11:54:51 GMT -5
Brick shall be given a strength level, courtesy of Creator! Capable of dismembering and humans with one arm. Punching through what appears to be pavement Destroying bricks with strikes Pressing and throwing aside what appear to be standard size 4 door sedans
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 11:54:55 GMT -5
What about All-Star Superman? He was supposedly stronger than his current version but their test for his single arm lifting strength was far below what Current Superman has done.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 11:55:57 GMT -5
The only noteworthy strength feat from him is breaking those two brick's arms just be refusing to let his arm move in armwrestling contests.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 12:00:33 GMT -5
About Brick:
He is lifting that car and putting it to the side with what seems like relative ease. But keep in mind, bodybuilders shoulder shrug cars like that in contests many times and they do it from the same end this car appears to be, the back end which is the side without the engine. The entire car is usually about a standard ton. But lifting from the side with the less weight is a matter of physics and taking advantage of weight distribution.
He is strong but I am not sure I would put him too far past the 1 ton mark.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 12:34:44 GMT -5
Wolverine and Steve Rogers should be moved to rank 6.
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Post by ckal on Jun 3, 2011 12:48:42 GMT -5
Beat- thanks for the info but I assume for dc characters only post crisis feats are being considered. And are you talking about captain marvel?
Creator- well you have classic hulk at a calm state listed, and a wwh hulk listed. I figured there would be a classic hulk angry ranking.
So is that all we need now to determine strength? Just matching someone in combat without needing feats? I thought we held our rankings tona higher standard than just that. Every other character requires feats but black Adam and capt marvel do not?
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 12:49:04 GMT -5
I think we could move DD up to 5, peak human. If it's needed i could elaborate why i believe that.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 12:49:49 GMT -5
I do not believe DD is peak human.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 12:52:39 GMT -5
Well, not exactly a peak human like Bruce is but a low level one. I think his feats of flipping over a limo and using a 400 lbs barbell as a bo stuff are pretty impressive strength feats.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 12:56:07 GMT -5
Flipping the limo was off panel and I stand firm that the 400lb barbell feat is just sloppy writing.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 12:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 13:04:18 GMT -5
Your links do not work.
Why is it sloppy writing? Why is that even a question? Swinging around 400 lbs like that is nigh impossible as the force of the swing alone to pull his 200 lbs along for the ride. Then the fact that he has never showed that kind of strength with any regularity before or since. For such a feat to even be possible for strength, he would have to be enhanced human anyway. We are talking swinging around 400 lbs like it is a twirling baton. I mean seriously.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 13:12:44 GMT -5
F#ck!!! I'll see what i can do about it later. Well, DD did not really swing as easy as you imply. First of all, he barely try to move it left and right, just to hit these guys. It's not like he was using it in the same way that Gambit use his stuff. The only thing that did not really make any sense was when, he has thrown the barbell at such a long distance over the other guy. Also, the point is not that he is truly capable of doing this stuff, but that his strength's level is greater than what we think. That was my point anyway. Also, just because he hasn't many strength feats similar to these, it does not mean he could not do it. It's like saying that a new villain that appears and beats wolverine in h2h is PIS because he does not have any other feats similar to that.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 3, 2011 13:14:01 GMT -5
I hope it's better now....
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