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Post by creator on Jun 1, 2011 15:47:40 GMT -5
Power Grids: Strength This is the grid discussion based on Strength feats. Strength is defined as the maximum weight that can be moved. This grid also includes Telekinetic feats. Characters ranked using Telekinesis should have (TK) listed after their entry to denote this difference. The image below lists the breakdown of strength (weight that can be lifted) against objects in that specific ranking. If the image does not display, I have added it as an attachment as well Please feel free to post feats but try to make them ones that can be quantified i.e. do not post Hercules holding up the heavens. If required I can and will (with your help) attempt to estimate the strength feat. Let’s try to get feats for characters that are representative of their ‘common’ strength, rather than the one off showings that occur because of external forces i.e. sun dipping. The characters already listed are not intended to be in their final positions but can be moved as evidence presents itself. They are simply listed based on some feats already shown in previous discussions on strength feats. Rank 1 Aunt May Rank 2 Prof X Rank 3 Cyclops Rank 4 Daredevil Kingpin Rank 5 Bane (without Venom) Black Panther Cap America Wolverine Rank 6 Bane (on Venom) Black Bolt (unenhanced) Karnak Kraven Midnighter Rank 7 Tombstone Rank 8 Spiderman Rank 9 American Eagle Lizard Luke Cage Puma Scorpion (Gargan), Rank 10 Rank 11 Rank 12 Rank 13 Invincible Rank 14 Rank 15 Rank 16 Rank 17 Rank 18 Rank 19 Rank 20 Rank 21 Rank 22 Rank 23 Thor Rank 24 Rank 25 Blue Marvel Rank 26 Black Adam Capt Marvel (Batson) Despro Martian Manhunter Superman Wonder Woman Rank 27 Superboy Prime PC Superman Rank 28 SA Superman Rank 29 Rank 30 Eternity Living Tribunal Attachments:
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Post by Strafe Prower on Jun 1, 2011 15:52:40 GMT -5
This grid brings back memories...I told off BatDance in the CV version of this topic haha.
Anyway...I'll get some feats up and do some posting in a few.
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Post by creator on Jun 1, 2011 15:54:40 GMT -5
This grid brings back memories...I told off BatDance in the CV version of this topic haha. Anyway...I'll get some feats up and do some posting in a few. I remember that well Great, lets get to populating this. It feels like a long time coming.
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Post by creator on Jun 1, 2011 15:55:36 GMT -5
Damn Image never appeared I'll see if I can get it up and running.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Jun 1, 2011 15:57:41 GMT -5
Damn Image never appeared I'll see if I can get it up and running. LOL I see the grid as an attachment. BTW, I have feats for strength only in fights versus others. (Ex. Geo-Force vs. Olympian), but that only does good, if you know the other character's abilities, correct?
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Post by creator on Jun 1, 2011 16:26:02 GMT -5
BTW, I have feats for strength only in fights versus others. (Ex. Geo-Force vs. Olympian), but that only does good, if you know the other character's abilities, correct? Yes but if we know that two characters are approximately similar in strength (through a battle) but we have feats for 1 oth them, then we can estimate the other accordingly. No one said this was going to be easy
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Post by Power NeXus on Jun 1, 2011 17:51:55 GMT -5
This seems as good a place as any to ask: Does anybody have any clue how strong Archangel is? Pretty much all of his bios list him as having superhuman strength, but I can't recall ever seeing a single strength feat for him.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 1, 2011 18:27:36 GMT -5
So how should we rank Danny? As far as i know, he does not really increase his strength in general with his chi, but only his striking power. So should we just rank him without chi?
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 1, 2011 18:31:51 GMT -5
Hulk should be either 24 or 25 maybe. His higher end feats were the old stuff. I cannot really remember any extreme feats recently other than pulling tectonic plates together. Impressive indeed but tectonic plates are floating on magma. So that does need to be considered when weighing the feat.
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Post by ckal on Jun 1, 2011 19:17:56 GMT -5
I don't recall any specific strength feats for Danny. I believe he is listed as athletic human without chi, and enhanced human with chi. Both should be ranked (with and without chi) and characters with similar traits, IMO.
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Post by ckal on Jun 1, 2011 19:22:53 GMT -5
Creator- I was always under the impression the Midgard Serpent weighed much more than an asteroid Blue Marvel has lifted. Wasn't it supposed to be about 1/3 the size of the earth or something? I don't remember any of the details, but I would think the Midgard Serpent is a much better feat than an asteroid the size of Arkansas.
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Post by Beatboks on Jun 1, 2011 22:38:30 GMT -5
Dark Nebula (TK) somewhere from 18 to 22. I'll do the math when I get home from work, but his peak TK feat was holding up a 2 mile 6 lane bridge fully Layden with peak hour traffic after bombs destabilized it ( until he could blast the supports with his dark fire to strengthen it). The feat didn't appear to tax him, so presumably he still had something in the tank.
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Post by creator on Jun 2, 2011 2:15:16 GMT -5
This seems as good a place as any to ask: Does anybody have any clue how strong Archangel is? Pretty much all of his bios list him as having superhuman strength, but I can't recall ever seeing a single strength feat for him. From what we have seen his body's physical strength is towards peak human but his wings seem to have low level superhuman strength.
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Post by creator on Jun 2, 2011 2:17:34 GMT -5
So how should we rank Danny? As far as i know, he does not really increase his strength in general with his chi, but only his striking power. So should we just rank him without chi? His Ch'i can increase his strength, as it can increase his other physical characteristics. His punching power will be dealt with seperately. I would rank him as Iron Fist (Unenhanced) 4 / (Enhanced) 5
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Post by creator on Jun 2, 2011 2:19:55 GMT -5
Creator- I was always under the impression the Midgard Serpent weighed much more than an asteroid Blue Marvel has lifted. Wasn't it supposed to be about 1/3 the size of the earth or something? I don't remember any of the details, but I would think the Midgard Serpent is a much better feat than an asteroid the size of Arkansas. The weight I have included is just my estimate based on images from the Thor comic from a long time ago (the atory arc when he fights the Serpent and is suffering from Hela's curse). If we have more images, I am more than happy to review the weight and see if we come up with something new.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Jun 2, 2011 2:20:23 GMT -5
Black Lightning's rank should be 3 or 4. He is a olympic gold medalist and lifts weights regularly, but to what degree I'm not sure.
Geo-Force should be on par with WW. He has sent Eradicator flying with a punch, Broke a rookie Kyle's shield with a punch, beat The Olympian (WW's equal in strength) in physical combat, etc.
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Post by creator on Jun 2, 2011 2:22:57 GMT -5
Hulk should be either 24 or 25 maybe. His higher end feats were the old stuff. I cannot really remember any extreme feats recently other than pulling tectonic plates together. Impressive indeed but tectonic plates are floating on magma. So that does need to be considered when weighing the feat. I agree that this is the top end of his feats and so should be around a 25 rank. The Hulk is a strange one however as his strength can also start at a much lower level. So for the Hulk why don't we include something like this Hulk - Classic (calm) 18 / (angry) 25 We could if we wanted have figures for each incarnation of the Hulk.
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Post by creator on Jun 2, 2011 2:24:15 GMT -5
Dark Nebula (TK) somewhere from 18 to 22. I'll do the math when I get home from work, but his peak TK feat was holding up a 2 mile 6 lane bridge fully Layden with peak hour traffic after bombs destabilized it ( until he could blast the supports with his dark fire to strengthen it). The feat didn't appear to tax him, so presumably he still had something in the tank. If you need help wirth the numbers let me know. That sounds like a pretty significant feat. I'll compile the liostings so far tonight.
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Post by Beatboks on Jun 2, 2011 3:05:15 GMT -5
Dark Nebula (TK) somewhere from 18 to 22. I'll do the math when I get home from work, but his peak TK feat was holding up a 2 mile 6 lane bridge fully Layden with peak hour traffic after bombs destabilized it ( until he could blast the supports with his dark fire to strengthen it). The feat didn't appear to tax him, so presumably he still had something in the tank. If you need help wirth the numbers let me know. That sounds like a pretty significant feat. I'll compile the liostings so far tonight. OK working on the assumption that in rush hour there would be a car every 5 meters witch would make about 640 cars per lane. average mass for a car around 3 tonne (i believe). So if my mat's right that around 3840 tonnes (in traffic). Since there would have to be a little more to allow for laden trucks etc lets say 4000. I'm going to add about 800 tonnes for the bridge since it's about a mile longer than the Golden Gate. So I'd guess around 5000 tonnes in TK feat. So I guess Dark nebula is either 17 or 18 (depending on whether the weights Creator lists per rank are the peak or start.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 2, 2011 3:34:15 GMT -5
So how should we rank Danny? As far as i know, he does not really increase his strength in general with his chi, but only his striking power. So should we just rank him without chi? His Ch'i can increase his strength, as it can increase his other physical characteristics. His punching power will be dealt with seperately. I would rank him as Iron Fist (Unenhanced) 4 / (Enhanced) 5 What i mean is that he does not use his chi to increase his strength to the point that he will lift something extremely heavy, or at least i have never seen him doing something like that. I always thought that he just uses it to increase his punching/ striking power and of course as you have said, his other stats( speed/ durability etc... ). =]
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