Deathstroke: As per Morph's comments: He has dodged a bullet from less than 2 metres away after it was fired, he has blocked multiple bullets with his sword, and has reacted to speedsters on a variety of occasions (on one of them he kicked Kid Flash and said "you're fast, but I'm fast too"). He obviously can't react to any Flash character if they are truly going all out, an their exact speed the times he has managed to hit them has never been explicitly stated (even though one could see afterimages), but he seems landing hits when they operate at low Mach speeds, at least in my opinion. Oh, and on another instance, Vigilante had him quite literally at point blank, but he ended up appearing behind her in between her pressing the trigger and the firing of the shot. Many of the feats would be at least a rank 11 or 12 feat. I'm going to suggest we put him in at rank 11.
Spider-Man: I have rated 1 feat for him at rank 13. Looking through his respect thread and other scans, he has dodged Electro's bolts from across a large room, so a rank 14 feat. I am going to suggest we place Spidey at rank 13.
Hawkeye: rank 7
Katanna: rank 7
Iron Fist: based on the bullet blocking feat and other feats in his respect threads, particularly since his power increase, I would rate him at rank 10.
Shiva: the bullet dodge feat would put her at rank 8
Quicksilver: lightning dodging feat, putting him at rank 17
Thor: based on what has been seen, say rank 13
Flash: dodging lasers and other super speedsters, rank 28
Superman: based on evidence so far, rank 24
Wonder Woman: I'm going to suggest rank 25 for her right now
Aquaman: based on shown feats, rank 9
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Rank 1 Aunt May
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Rank 6 Harley Quinn
Rank 7 Haweye Katanna
Rank 8 Shiva
Rank 9 Aquaman
Rank 10 Iron Fist
Rank 11 Deathstroke Cassandra Cain Drakon Creeper
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Rank 13 Thor Spider-Man Midnighter Midnighter
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Rank 17 Quicksilver
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Rank 24 Superman
Rank 25 Wonder Woman
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Rank 28 Flash (Allen)
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Last Edit: Oct 22, 2012 23:02:36 GMT -5 by creator
I think the Deathstroke/Flash feats should be disregarded. Most of his successful hits were with planning and when Flash pointed that out, Deathstroke could only take punches rather than dealing them out.
I think he is at or slightly below Cassandra Cain. IIRC he himself said he could not beat her unless he got in her head and rattled her.
I think the Deathstroke/Flash feats should be disregarded. Most of his successful hits were with planning and when Flash pointed that out, Deathstroke could only take punches rather than dealing them out.
I think he is at or slightly below Cassandra Cain. IIRC he himself said he could not beat her unless he got in her head and rattled her.
I have put the Flash feats aside and only based DS's ranking on the bullet feats. In which case lets see feats for Cain as a counterpoint.
One feat is their fight together, where Slade said he had to get in her mind in order to win.
Another feat is where Cain literally outraces a bullet. She was standing next to some guy and was facing an opponent leveling his gun at her. Once he fired, she jumped at him and knocked him out before the bullet could wiz by the guy she was previously standing next to. The guy was clearly just a marker so we could measure the feat and she did not move until after fired upon.
So the reaction speed allowed her to dodge out of the way of a bullet, while at the same time racing towards it at a speed slightly greater than the bullet coming towards her.
If that is not a crazy, pulling your hair out to understand it kind of feat, I don't know what is.
I think he is at or slightly below Cassandra Cain. IIRC he himself said he could not beat her unless he got in her head and rattled her.
I wouldn't really give that statement a whole lot of credence seeing as how Cass herself has said Slade is stronger and faster than her in another issue where she fought Ravager. Slade also said the only way to beat Rose was to get inside her head, but he's done that multiple times without needing a strategy like that. Statements from characters are of questionable veracity when their individual feats say otherwise and contradictory statements exist.
I think he is at or slightly below Cassandra Cain. IIRC he himself said he could not beat her unless he got in her head and rattled her.
I wouldn't really give that statement a whole lot of credence seeing as how Cass herself has said Slade is stronger and faster than her in another issue where she fought Ravager. Slade also said the only way to beat Rose was to get inside her head, but he's done that multiple times without needing a strategy like that. Statements from characters are of questionable veracity when their individual feats say otherwise and contradictory statements exist.
But wasn't Slade's statement inner monologue while Cain's was not? And maybe Cain was just not as good at measuring herself as Slade and his supposedly "super strategy brain" is.
I don't really remember the scene well so really, anyone could probably shine more light on it than me but I have a hard time believing Slade would lie to himself.
Ok. I have had a look and come up with the following,
1. The knife throw was effectively invisible and as such would be a rank 11 feat. 2. He catches four arrows from GA at around 15' range. This is a rank 7 or 8 feat. 3. He catches the arrowhead GA fired from behind him. He catches the arrow from a very low range. I would say this is a rank 11 or 12 feat. 4. Finally he catches 7 arrows from GA Jr. This is a rank 9 feat.
So overall I would be tempted to put him in Rank 11.
I wouldn't really give that statement a whole lot of credence seeing as how Cass herself has said Slade is stronger and faster than her in another issue where she fought Ravager. Slade also said the only way to beat Rose was to get inside her head, but he's done that multiple times without needing a strategy like that. Statements from characters are of questionable veracity when their individual feats say otherwise and contradictory statements exist.
But wasn't Slade's statement inner monologue while Cain's was not? And maybe Cain was just not as good at measuring herself as Slade and his supposedly "super strategy brain" is.
Cassie's statement was inner monologue too.
Plus going by feats we have two fights where Cass had her hands full with just Rose, whereas Slade has wrecked Rose every time they've ever fought.
One feat is their fight together, where Slade said he had to get in her mind in order to win.
Another feat is where Cain literally outraces a bullet. She was standing next to some guy and was facing an opponent leveling his gun at her. Once he fired, she jumped at him and knocked him out before the bullet could wiz by the guy she was previously standing next to. The guy was clearly just a marker so we could measure the feat and she did not move until after fired upon.
So the reaction speed allowed her to dodge out of the way of a bullet, while at the same time racing towards it at a speed slightly greater than the bullet coming towards her.
If that is not a crazy, pulling your hair out to understand it kind of feat, I don't know what is.
Sounds very impressive. Stupid question, but can we find the scans ?
I don't really remember the scene well so really, anyone could probably shine more light on it than me but I have a hard time believing Slade would lie to himself.
I re-checked. Slade's statement wasn't inner monologue, which opens up the possibility that he was just messing with Cass.