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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Feb 26, 2011 0:01:20 GMT -5
Celtic mythology is so badass. Id assume thats where the name came from an yes it is though its not my strong point
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 26, 2011 15:41:31 GMT -5
yep that's where Finn MCcool comes from. He's one of the great heroes of Celtic legendry.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Mar 1, 2011 0:59:29 GMT -5
yep that's where Finn MCcool comes from. He's one of the great heroes of Celtic legendry. I know about him my dog is named after his Bran
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 1, 2011 1:39:55 GMT -5
Bran the Blessed is actually a great hero of welsh legend. One of the great legendary kings of that land.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Mar 1, 2011 10:38:03 GMT -5
Didnt Fin have a Dog named Bran as well?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 1, 2011 13:11:46 GMT -5
From memory the one celtic hero associated with a dog wasn't Finn it was Cuchulain, he killed a smith's dog which pretty much put him on the path that led to him pretty much becoming the greatest of all the Celtic heroes.
I'll research a bit, if I find any references to a dog in Finn's story I will post them here.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Mar 1, 2011 23:49:03 GMT -5
Im pretty sure about this one though like i said Celtic myths arent my strongest ones
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 1, 2011 23:55:46 GMT -5
Went through two versions of Finn's tale, still couldn't find any.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Mar 2, 2011 10:36:09 GMT -5
HHHMMM ok im gonna look into that now
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 17, 2011 18:10:09 GMT -5
Researching polynesian mythology as part of my writing process.
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Post by NexusOfLight on Jun 17, 2011 22:41:26 GMT -5
Feel free to share the fruits of your research with us.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 18, 2011 16:31:47 GMT -5
I'm going through all the concepts of tapu, mana and such which is really awesome. It's all besically about the place and authority a being has over the world.
Plus their myths are totally badass. I'll of course elaborate if there is interest.
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Post by NexusOfLight on Jun 19, 2011 9:22:30 GMT -5
Well, I'm interested.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 19, 2011 18:25:13 GMT -5
O.K.
So tapu describes prohibition to behavior and interaction with certain things, places and people. By this it could be roughly translated to as "sacred" contrasted to noa which is "free" or "unsacred". But this is a gross oversimplification. Tapu is basically what is described as proper interactions and prohibitions towards all things. A place designated as tapu is one where one cannot indulge in certain behavior. A person (most often a chief or shaman) when tapu cannot be touched or looked directly upon etc. Following tapu brings spiritual balance to the world while defying tapu brings spiritual imbalance.
When tapu is violated, then the affront before order and the gods must be rectified. In this regard it can be as simple as purification or an apology to as wide as going to all out war against the offender.
In this regard, it's worth pointing out that Polynesian culture (especially Maori) was very much a warrior culture with elaborate philosophies or war and complexe rituals and martial art techniques.
Mana describes the spiritual power and authority of all things. Stronger mana gives greater authority over the mundane and the spiritual world. In this regard all things have mana even objects. But the greater has more mana and thus more power and authority to wield. In this regard, war, glory, spiritual practices and respect for tapu and ancestors brings greater mana to the practitioner and in this regard, great deeds and proper behavior afforded great respect for people as they were believed to have stronger mana.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 21, 2011 11:00:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but i would like to know how many and which religions are similar to the Christian one....
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 21, 2011 22:19:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but i would like to know how many and which religions are similar to the Christian one.... I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by that?
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 21, 2011 22:53:56 GMT -5
I've heard stories about people that were born from virgins like Jesus and other similar events. So i assumed that there are several religions with similar events to that of the Christian one.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 22, 2011 13:51:04 GMT -5
I've heard stories about people that were born from virgins like Jesus and other similar events. So i assumed that there are several religions with similar events to that of the Christian one. O.K... I think I understand. I'm not sure but I think I do. In a more general sense. Many mythologies have prominent figures born exceptional ways either by how and who their parents were. Vishnu as Krishna incarnating himself in mortal flesh etc. In the same vein, the concept of a divine entity sacrificing itself to allow either creation or change is not completely unique (Persian mythology has this) However, does this mean they are actual similar? Yes and no. Human thought as explained by Noam Chomski (a prominent anthropologist) can independently of contact between two different groups, bring forth similar ideas. Each mythology or religion is part of it's own group of linked beliefs and mythology (in that they share origins, beliefs and culture) and whole really. However because each is it's own entity. The reasons, beliefs and logic behind it are often only similar superficially. And when you understand them you see that you can't equate one with the other really (see Castlenopolis is's thread on virgin births where I explain this further with a specific example) Christianity itself falls under one particular tree of belief evolution that traces itself back to early Canaanite, Ugaritic and Semitic belief systems from the regions of the Levant, the portion of the middle-east that encompasses from the Holy Land to the Iranian desert, including Syria and such. This particular tree of belief systems grew into is commonly referred to as Abrahamic belief systems (religions of Abraham) who all worship "GOD" and hold similar beliefs in a religious, mythological and societal stance, share belief that they share important religious figures and are linked. Thought It's worth pointing that these Semitic, Ugaritic and Canaanite belief systems where the Abrahamic religions trace their origins is not part of them per say. Historically speaking this particular tree of belief systems (the Abrahamic one) has elements taken from contact with Persian belief systems, Sumerian/Babylonian/Akkadian and later with the Greeks as well. Thought none of these are part of this belief tree however.
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Post by spidey_17 on Jun 22, 2011 14:22:03 GMT -5
That was pretty helpful. Thank you very much Crom!!!
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 22, 2011 14:25:57 GMT -5
That was pretty helpful. Thank you very much Crom!!! my pleasure.
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