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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 18:56:01 GMT -5
The cool thing when you have already taken the "drones/avatars/etch" route once, is that every writer can basically undo every single low showing as they see fit by claiming it was yet another drone. In context of the story, I think Cornell intended it to be the real deal.
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:00:19 GMT -5
I hate that stuff. But then again when you think about it for any character, once they have made it to their peak, you have nothing to do than to start from the bottom.
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Post by Silver on Apr 9, 2011 19:01:43 GMT -5
I haven't followed BD but both Zoom and Phantom seem to concur it's sub-par. BN started well but became pretty boring in the end. I have enjoyed everything up to Agent Orange in his GL run, though. Blackest Night at least had a good concept behind it though. I really have no idea what the point of Brightest Day actually is, and we're 23 freaking issues into it. (WTF, Johns?) |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:05:47 GMT -5
I enjoy Brainiac a good deal, but I think writers should 1) decide how physically dominant he actually is. They have managed to make a mess out of it just three years after the character got reinvented, and 2) use him respectively in his own right (much like Bedard did in REBELS) and not as a stepping stone for others. I like Lex even more than I do Brainiac, but I'd have been content with a full scale battle between the two both physically, and mentally, while AC # 899 sold Brainiac pretty short, a prelude for the main feature, that was the alien entity that Lex fought.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:07:01 GMT -5
I haven't followed BD but both Zoom and Phantom seem to concur it's sub-par. BN started well but became pretty boring in the end. I have enjoyed everything up to Agent Orange in his GL run, though. Blackest Night at least had a good concept behind it though. I really have no idea what the point of Brightest Day actually is, and we're 23 freaking issues into it. (WTF, Johns?) |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:07:32 GMT -5
I haven't followed BD but both Zoom and Phantom seem to concur it's sub-par. BN started well but became pretty boring in the end. I have enjoyed everything up to Agent Orange in his GL run, though. Blackest Night at least had a good concept behind it though. I really have no idea what the point of Brightest Day actually is, and we're 23 freaking issues into it. (WTF, Johns?) I actually loved both. No, it's not cause I am a Lantern fan (at least not completely) but the story line is actually pretty great. I hate how John's basically dumbs everyone down, but I enjoy the story. BD is just too long, but with how it started there is no way for it not to be. |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:08:33 GMT -5
I enjoy Brainiac a good deal, but I think writers should 1) decide how physically dominant he actually is. They have managed to make a mess out of it just three years after the character got reinvented, and 2) use him respectively in his own right (much like Bedard did in REBELS) and not as a stepping stone for others. I like Lex even more than I do Brainiac, but I'd have been content with a full scale battle between the two both physically, and mentally, while AC # 899 sold Brainiac pretty short, a prelude for the main feature, that was the alien entity that Lex fought. Do you ever feel like comics aren't as long as they used to be for battle scenes? I mean, they feel as though there is too much fluff. |
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Post by Silver on Apr 9, 2011 19:10:18 GMT -5
Blackest Night at least had a good concept behind it though. I really have no idea what the point of Brightest Day actually is, and we're 23 freaking issues into it. (WTF, Johns?) Well, sure, when you oversimplify it like that, it sounds stupid.  But anywho, maybe I should look more into Brainiac's current appearances. Are they worth it overall? |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:12:13 GMT -5
I enjoy Brainiac a good deal, but I think writers should 1) decide how physically dominant he actually is. They have managed to make a mess out of it just three years after the character got reinvented, and 2) use him respectively in his own right (much like Bedard did in REBELS) and not as a stepping stone for others. I like Lex even more than I do Brainiac, but I'd have been content with a full scale battle between the two both physically, and mentally, while AC # 899 sold Brainiac pretty short, a prelude for the main feature, that was the alien entity that Lex fought. Do you ever feel like comics aren't as long as they used to be for battle scenes? I mean, they feel as though there is too much fluff. |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:15:12 GMT -5
Do you ever feel like comics aren't as long as they used to be for battle scenes? I mean, they feel as though there is too much fluff. Did you read that comic? Yeah, I mean, when you have read everything with Lex and the Black rings just to end at that, it was just completely ridiculous. It was at it's climax then just shut down. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:17:40 GMT -5
LOL. I'm not sure I'd call zombifying the entire DCU a good concept, but your point about BD is duly noted. Well, sure, when you oversimplify it like that, it sounds stupid. But anywho, maybe I should look more into Brainiac's current appearances. Are they worth it overall?
It's a worthwhile experience, since they are all good stories. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:19:52 GMT -5
Superhero comics are a bit weird in that respect. There's a fine line to walk when it comes to fight scenes, and there's a very good chance you will either overdo, or underdo it. To answer the question, yeah, I feel not many writers actually pull off the right balance between dialogue and perfectly tailored battle scenes anymore. Brainiac vs Lex definitely didn't. Did you read that comic? Yeah, I mean, when you have read everything with Lex and the Black rings just to end at that, it was just completely ridiculous. It was at it's climax then just shut down. |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:22:24 GMT -5
Did you read that comic? Yeah, I mean, when you have read everything with Lex and the Black rings just to end at that, it was just completely ridiculous. It was at it's climax then just shut down. I LOVED the run, and I can't wait till #900, but that last read really tore me down. |
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Post by Silver on Apr 9, 2011 19:23:47 GMT -5
Well, sure, when you oversimplify it like that, it sounds stupid. But anywho, maybe I should look more into Brainiac's current appearances. Are they worth it overall?
It's a worthwhile experience, since they are all good stories.I will look into these. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:24:21 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that the new cosmic Lex won't job to the PIS machine that answers to the name Doomsday, though.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:27:06 GMT -5
He hasn't been in much from what I can tell. I still haven't read his appearances in Adventure Comics and New Krypton, but that's about it. Other than that, you can check out Superman: Brainiac (which is very good), Action Comics # 899 (his fight with Lex), and REBELS: Sons of Brainiac (REBELS # 18-20) which basically pits Brainiac against his successors, Vril Dox, and Lyrl Dox.
It's a worthwhile experience, since they are all good stories. I will look into these. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:29:56 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that the new cosmic Lex won't job to the PIS machine that answers to the name Doomsday, though. Wouldn't hold your breath. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:32:46 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that the new cosmic Lex won't job to the PIS machine that answers to the name Doomsday, though. Wouldn't hold your breath. 
I recall Lord Barbatos telling me Cornell stated in an interview that Lex's segment will likely be independent from the Doomsday one, but I'll only relax after I read it. |
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 9, 2011 19:35:09 GMT -5
Wouldn't hold your breath.
I recall Lord Barbatos telling me Cornell stated in an interview that Lex's segment will likely be independent from the Doomsday one, but I'll only relax after I read it.I just want to see what Lex does with this great new "power" he has attained. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 9, 2011 19:37:54 GMT -5
Likewise.
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