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Post by goku on Nov 20, 2010 20:04:16 GMT -5
I was just speculating the 10 year period. Obviously, you can't prove that and I'm well aware than Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku n the Buu saga.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 20, 2010 20:10:09 GMT -5
As long as none of you start using DBGT as references.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:11:51 GMT -5
As long as none of you start using DBGT as references. I LOVE DBGT!!!!
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 20, 2010 20:14:35 GMT -5
KILL HIM!!!! Head turns 360 degress. BURN HIM!!
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Post by goku on Nov 20, 2010 20:14:38 GMT -5
I didn't mind GT. The plot holes were the only things that really irked me and characters being downplayed. It's not my favorite of the trilogy though. Toriyama-sensei even drew SSJ4 Goku for one of the Dragon Box sets.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:16:42 GMT -5
My favorite moments of GT were the last episodes with Omega Shenron, the SSJ4 Gogeta and the ultimate spirit Bomb. =]
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Post by goku on Nov 20, 2010 20:18:52 GMT -5
GT had the greatest ending out of the 3.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:20:03 GMT -5
Agreed. =]
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:21:15 GMT -5
KILL HIM!!!! Head turns 360 degress.BURN HIM!! Lol. Just kidding. I did not care for GT actually. The inconsistencies were what ruined it for me.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:21:36 GMT -5
That and I was unimpressed with the stories as a whole.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 20, 2010 20:22:33 GMT -5
I think Akira could have ended Z well if there wasn't a possibility of GT.
So what are people's theories on why Pan couldn't go Super Saiyan?
My theory is because the gene that is required to go Super is in the Y chromosome. And a female would need to go Super Saiyan for his children to transform.
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Post by goku on Nov 20, 2010 20:23:43 GMT -5
One of my (online) friends did a video on the top 10 Dragon Ball moments and he included both of our favorites as number 1 (the ending of GT). His YouTube account has been banned though for the copyright infringement but I still talk to him on anime forums. He should be back soon though.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:24:31 GMT -5
I think it was already explained, why Pan could not go SSJ... =]
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:25:06 GMT -5
I think Akira could have ended Z well if there wasn't a possibility of GT. So what are people's theories on why Pan couldn't go Super Saiyan? My theory is because the gene that is required to go Super is in the Y chromosome. And a female would need to go Super Saiyan for his children to transform. I think she just could not do it for psychological reasons. From what I understand, they did not give her the ability because they had a hard time figuring out what a girl would look like as far as the hair is concerned. Which I always thought was weird.
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Post by goku on Nov 20, 2010 20:35:08 GMT -5
I don't think we have enough proof to really give an accurate opinion. If you take GT as canon, then Pan should be able to, considering that Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. were able to at the end of the series. Bulla is also not seen reaching that level. It could be that the females get the recessive trait. If you don't take GT as canon, maybe the reason is that Pan didn't have enough Saiyajin blood. Son Gohan is a half Saiyajin, and Videl is a human, so there could be a discrepancy with her blood heritage or not enough lineage. The female part is possible too, in correlation to inheritance. I'd have to check my Daizenshuus, but I believe Toriyama-sensei wrote that he didn't know how to draw a female Super Saiyajin. It could just be another internet rumor though. My hypothesis would be that Pan and Bulla's blood are too diluted to perform a Super Saiyajin transformation.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:39:22 GMT -5
I agree with Henshin. It mostly had to do with her DNA. Not enough Saiyajin. =]
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:43:01 GMT -5
I do not think DNA has anything to do with it. The only people that did not have to work for it were (kid) Trunks and Goten anyway. It is possible that Pan just had to work for it like most everyone else did.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:45:53 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that the reason was already stated in the anime. I think it was during the fight with Baby Vegeta. =]
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 20, 2010 20:53:32 GMT -5
I'm still pretty sure that the reason was already stated in the anime. I think it was during the fight with Baby Vegeta. =] I am pretty sure it stated it as speculation rather than fact.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 20, 2010 20:55:57 GMT -5
I see. =]
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