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Post by creator on Dec 18, 2012 0:45:49 GMT -5
I had forgotten that we already had Invincible at Rank 13 based on the 400 tonne feat. Hunting around, I found this respect thread for Invincible www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=481535It shows some strength feats. The one were he lifts the pillar in o place is certainly way above 400 tonnes. Now the calculations a user in that thread I don't trust so I redid them myself. The column is approx 16 times higher (to the lower edge of the taper) taller than Mark. If Mark is 6' tall, this would make the column 96' high. The diameter of the column is more difficult to calculate. It looks like we might be seeing approx 50% of the diameter of the column. That would mean the diameter would be approx 90'. The column looks stone like and so an average density for many stones is 2.6 tonnes per cubic meter. A quick calc says that the column as a straight line column to the lower edge of the top taper only is 17,782 cubic meters volume. Therefore the tonnage of a stone column of I molar dimensions would be at least 46,000+ tonnes. Which would equate to a rank 16 feat.
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Post by creator on Dec 18, 2012 0:47:34 GMT -5
Which version? PC or N52? Did he use his super strength or TK? Pre-Flashpoint. And he has used his own strength in some occasions and TK on others, so I guess he's as strong in TK is he is in super strength. To be honest I don't think it matters to much as very rarely does he not get to use his TK so being able to rank his TK initially would be ideal. Do we have an image of him lifting the ship?
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Post by Dane on Feb 15, 2013 9:31:15 GMT -5
Classic Thor?
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Post by creator on Feb 17, 2013 10:07:31 GMT -5
Most likely somewhere between rank 23 to 25.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 17, 2013 10:37:16 GMT -5
Most likely somewhere between rank 23 to 25. Is that estimate with or without the serpent feat?
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Post by creator on Feb 18, 2013 14:35:41 GMT -5
Most likely somewhere between rank 23 to 25. Is that estimate with or without the serpent feat? With but it also uses the renowned "Thor gets pinned in metal scrap when imbued with the gravitational effect of a neutron star" feat
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Post by creator on Feb 18, 2013 16:14:41 GMT -5
I have been looking at some of the questionable feats to see if I could put a number on them. For instance Hercules holding up the heavens. An interpretation is Herc holding up the weight of the Earths atmosphere, as that is what's above mans head e.g. The heavens. An estimate of the mass of the atmosphere is 510,000,000,000 tonnes which would make this a rank 24 feat. It's all interpretation much like the Serpent lifting feat
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 18, 2013 16:24:03 GMT -5
I have been looking at some of the questionable feats to see if I could put a number on them. For instance Hercules holding up the heavens. An interpretation is Herc holding up the weight of the Earths atmosphere, as that is what's above mans head e.g. The heavens. An estimate of the mass of the atmosphere is 510,000,000,000 tonnes which would make this a rank 24 feat. It's all interpretation much like the Serpent lifting feat I take both of those feats and...
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Post by jakefury on Feb 18, 2013 16:58:52 GMT -5
How strong is Omni-Man? (no Invincible spoilers PUH-LEEZ)
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Post by creator on Feb 18, 2013 20:54:56 GMT -5
I take both of those feats and... LOL
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Post by creator on Feb 18, 2013 20:58:52 GMT -5
How strong is Omni-Man? (no Invincible spoilers PUH-LEEZ) Well he is meant to be stronger than Invincible. I ranked an Invincible feat at rank 16. I don't have any recent strength feats for Omni-man however.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 18, 2013 21:23:51 GMT -5
Omni-Man is stronger than Invincible but only just so, recently. The gap had been all but closed from what Invincible was able to show against some big baddies a few months ago. They both did just as badly against one guy...
But in the beginning, Omni-Man was a great deal more powerful.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 11, 2013 10:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by creator on Mar 18, 2013 21:53:11 GMT -5
Eric, I can crunch some numbers (containing a few assumptions I'm afraid) on this feet and see what they come out at.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 18, 2013 23:08:31 GMT -5
YAY! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
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Post by jakefury on Mar 19, 2013 9:17:15 GMT -5
That black hole feat is freaking awesome.
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Post by creator on Mar 27, 2013 23:43:06 GMT -5
Here's a few calculations. I had to use estimations for both the size of a dust particle and the density of black hole matter. I used some online reference sources to help with the estimations.
Spec of dust diameter / m 1.00E-04 Pi 3.141592 Volume of dust spec/m3 7.85E-09
Mass of sun/kg 1.9891E+30 volume of a 3km dia sphere/m3 7068582 Density of black hole / kg/m3 2.814E+23
Mass of dust spec black hole/kg 2.21E+15 Mass of dust spec black hole/tonnes 2,210,111,111,111
Spec of dust diameter / m 2.50E-04 Pi 3.141592 Volume of dust spec/m3 4.91E-08 Mass of sun/kg 1.9891E+30 volume of a 3km dia sphere/m3 7068582 Density of black hole / kg/m3 2.814E+23 Mass of dust spec black hole/kg 1.38E+16 Mass of dust spec black hole/tonnes 13,813,194,444,444
I quoted 2 sizes of dust motes and both of these are rank 23 feats. I actually don't think it was the weight that was bothering Superman although its pretty heavy but the gravitation sheer forces that threaten to tear his hands apart.
The weight would increase dramatically if the dust mote size increases. I was conservative on the size of the dust mote so these should be minimums.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 28, 2013 0:41:59 GMT -5
You are probably right about the pain thing. I guess that would make this a dual feat. Both for the weight of the black hole and withstanding the pulling forces within the event horizon. It appears that it is not one of his higher end lifting feats though, based on your calculations.
Thanks for doing the leg work Creator!!!
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Post by creator on Mar 31, 2013 22:37:25 GMT -5
You are probably right about the pain thing. I guess that would make this a dual feat. Both for the weight of the black hole and withstanding the pulling forces within the event horizon. It appears that it is not one of his higher end lifting feats though, based on your calculations. Thanks for doing the leg work Creator!!! No problem. I like the challenge!
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 31, 2013 23:21:58 GMT -5
Now... Apply those same calculations for his durability feats. This was a small black hole too. I think I remember him actually being within a black hole as well. The forces generated by one at least big enough to contain his entire body must be staggering.
Might make an endurance feat too since he was able to operate at certain levels while under extreme strain... though I am not sure how that would be rated.
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