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Post by devias on Aug 17, 2011 7:15:50 GMT -5
Black Bolt, theoretical scream. Distance: 7 AOE: 12 Power Level: 14 Overall: 11 Not so sure about this one. Luckily I have already done some homework on Black Bolt as part of a whole series of characters I have been preparing. Under the heading of Electron Manipulation, Black Bolt has deflected a solar flare at long range, destroyed domes that have easily resisted nuclear weapons and sent shockwaves round the world. So I score him accordingly, Black Bolt - Electron ManipulationDistance: 15 AOE: 15 Power Level: 17 Overall: 16 Good enough for me .
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Post by ckal on Aug 17, 2011 11:12:14 GMT -5
Thor has also absorbed and shot back the energy from 'Glory' in Chaos War: Thor #1. Not sure whether or not that is more or less impressive than the null bomb absorption. Do we have any idea how powerful Glory's energy blasts are i.e. seen what they can destroy ? Don't remember. The best I can do is post some scans, which I'll do when I get some time.
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Post by creator on Aug 17, 2011 14:12:32 GMT -5
Don't remember. The best I can do is post some scans, which I'll do when I get some time. Thanks. We can make a judgement from them.
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Post by creator on Aug 17, 2011 17:33:26 GMT -5
Here are a few more for discussion,
Abraxas - All Distance: 28 Area of Effect: 27 Power Level: 29 Overall: 29
Air Walker - Power Cosmic Distance: 16 Area of Effect: 19 Power Level: 18 Overall: 18
Alan Scott - Force Distance: 16 Area of Effect: 20 Power Level: 22 Overall: 20
Annihilus - Cosmic Energy (Object) Distance: 12 Area of Effect: 13 Power Level: 18 Overall: 16
Big Barda - Force (Object) Distance: 11 Area of Effect: 9 Power Level: 13 Overall: 12
Blue Beetle (Reyes) - Plasma Distance: 11 Area of Effect: 10 Power Level: 14 Overall: 13
Black Bolt - Electron Manipulation Distance: 15 Area of Effect: 15 Power Level: 17 Overall: 16
Blizzard - Cold (Object) Distance: 5 Area of Effect: 7 Power Level: 8 Overall: 7
Captain Atom - All Distance: 17 Area of Effect: 24 Power Level: 24 Overall: 23
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 17, 2011 20:31:31 GMT -5
Here are a few more for discussion, Alan Scott - ForceDistance: 16 Area of Effect: 20 Power Level: 22 Overall: 20 I might have argued that the distance was a little greater than that. Only due to the fact that he has example reached out to other dimensions or realms (after the last time he was controlled by the starheart, Underworld Unleashed, Fate, and others). However since such things are quite abstract in the sense of distance (and I guess like a Einstein Rosen bridge could be mere cm's actual distance) the only thing I can think of that supports distance would be his world encompassing power showings. There was the one battle with his son that his power blew out into space but I don't believe it was affecting anything directly. Otherwise those I know look good.
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Post by ckal on Aug 17, 2011 21:44:39 GMT -5
Is Captain Atom really 4 ranks above Silver Surfer?
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Post by creator on Aug 18, 2011 2:20:33 GMT -5
Is Captain Atom really 4 ranks above Silver Surfer? Its my best estimate for now. I'm hoping we can get input from Static on Atom. I think his controlled power releases are in this magnitude but when he goes uncontrolled (or as Monarch) then he raises the bar much higher. Being 4 bars higher is pretty significant but it is also at least 4 bars lower than Galactus - but we are saying that he can release a balst that could effect our entire solar system and that the blast could contain around about the same power as the sun puts out for around 100 years. Anyhow I'm open to suggestions
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Post by creator on Aug 18, 2011 2:21:27 GMT -5
Here are a few more for discussion, Alan Scott - ForceDistance: 16 Area of Effect: 20 Power Level: 22 Overall: 20 I might have argued that the distance was a little greater than that. Only due to the fact that he has example reached out to other dimensions or realms (after the last time he was controlled by the starheart, Underworld Unleashed, Fate, and others). However since such things are quite abstract in the sense of distance (and I guess like a Einstein Rosen bridge could be mere cm's actual distance) the only thing I can think of that supports distance would be his world encompassing power showings. There was the one battle with his son that his power blew out into space but I don't believe it was affecting anything directly. Otherwise those I know look good. Thanks. Any comment on any of the others ?
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Post by Heisenburg on Aug 19, 2011 16:13:52 GMT -5
Being 4 bars higher is pretty significant but it is also at least 4 bars lower than Galactus - but we are saying that he can release a balst that could effect our entire solar system and that the blast could contain around about the same power as the sun puts out for around 100 years. Anyhow I'm open to suggestions If referring to him exploding in Countdown, I wouldn't count that. He had already absorbed the power of 51 other Captain Atoms. Had it been prior to his power up, I don't think the explosion would have been that vast. I think examples prior to his power up would be better to use. It sent some to you via PM. Between both Captain Atom and Silver Surfer, the latter has shown a greater area of effect. Surfer has actually destroyed a planet at his fullest, minus any power up. Captain Atom (as Monarch, but before being powered up) has only destroyed a continent. Surfer power level would also be slightly higher, as well.
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Post by creator on Aug 19, 2011 17:16:30 GMT -5
If referring to him exploding in Countdown, I wouldn't count that. He had already absorbed the power of 51 other Captain Atoms. Had it been prior to his power up, I don't think the explosion would have been that vast. I think examples prior to his power up would be better to use. It sent some to you via PM. Between both Captain Atom and Silver Surfer, the latter has shown a greater area of effect. Surfer has actually destroyed a planet at his fullest, minus any power up. Captain Atom (as Monarch, but before being powered up) has only destroyed a continent. Surfer power level would also be slightly higher, as well. Thanks for the examples. I think surfer tunnelled through the planet and it then broke up behind him in the example I recall. If we are talking abou that example I don't see that as being beyond many other characters. It was not like the surfer disintegrated the entire planet.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 19, 2011 17:32:55 GMT -5
He was wrestling Ravenous on the planet's surface, he said "learn from this", then unleashed a massive amount of energy, and the planet broke to pieces. It's from Annihilation: Silver Surfer # 4. I presume it's the example Static speaks of.
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Post by ckal on Aug 19, 2011 17:53:26 GMT -5
He was wrestling Ravenous on the planet's surface, he said "learn from this", then unleashed a massive amount of energy, and the planet broke to pieces. It's from Annihilation: Silver Surfer # 4. I presume it's the example Static speaks of. Yeah this happened.
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Post by Heisenburg on Aug 19, 2011 18:34:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the examples. I think surfer tunnelled through the planet and it then broke up behind him in the example I recall. If we are talking abou that example I don't see that as being beyond many other characters. It was not like the surfer disintegrated the entire planet. You're welcome. As for the example for the Surfer, I was referring to another one, as Morpheus stated.
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Post by creator on Aug 20, 2011 13:54:01 GMT -5
He was wrestling Ravenous on the planet's surface, he said "learn from this", then unleashed a massive amount of energy, and the planet broke to pieces. It's from Annihilation: Silver Surfer # 4. I presume it's the example Static speaks of. Thanks Morph.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 20, 2011 14:07:52 GMT -5
Anytime.
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Post by creator on Aug 21, 2011 12:09:13 GMT -5
Here are some more characters for discussion. I have reviewed a couple we have already posted and made a couple of alterations.
Let me know what you think,
Captain Atom - Absorption - All/Plasma/Heat Distance: 16 Area of Effect: 18 Power Level: 22 Overall: 20
Captain Mar-vell - Light Distance: 11 Area of Effect: 9 Power Level: 11 Overall: 11
Captain Marvel - Lightning Distance: 3 Area of Effect: 5 Power Level: 19 Overall: 12
Crimson Dynamo - Light/Radioactivity Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 7 Power Level: 10 Overall: 7
Cyborg - Sonic Distance: 6 Area of Effect: 7 Power Level: 9 Overall: 8
Darkseid - Omega Beams Distance: 26 Area of Effect: 23 Power Level: 26 Overall: 26
Dazzler - Sound Absorption/Light Distance: 7 Area of Effect: 10 Power Level: 10 Overall: 9
Destroyer - Disintegration/Magnetism/Heat/Plasma Distance: 11 Area of Effect: 13 Power Level: 24 Overall: 18
Firestar - Microwaves Distance: 6 Area of Effect: 9 Power Level: 14 Overall: 11
Havok - Plasma Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 8 Power Level: 11 Overall: 8
Hyperion - Heat Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 9 Power Level: 12 Overall: 9
Gladiator - Heat Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 10 Power Level: 19 Overall: 13
Invisible Woman - Force Distance: 9 Area of Effect: 12 Power Level: 16 Overall: 13
Terrax - Disintegration (Object) Distance: 14 Area of Effect: 18 Power Level: 18 Overall: 17
Galactus - Power Cosmic Distance: 29 Area of Effect: 27 Power Level: 30 Overall: 29
Ikaris - Heat/Light/Force Distance: 6 Area of Effect: 7 Power Level: 9 Overall: 8
Jolt - Electricity Distance: 5 Area of Effect: 5 Power Level: 7 Overall: 6
Lightning Lord - Electricity Distance: 7 Area of Effect: 8 Power Level: 10 Overall: 9
Martian Manhunter - Heat Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 10 Power Level: 13 Overall: 10
Captain Cold - Cold (Object) Distance: 7 Area of Effect: 10 Power Level: 12 Overall: 11
Molten Man - Heat Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 6 Power Level: 4 Overall: 4
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 22, 2011 2:58:50 GMT -5
Damage - Fusion energy Distance -12 Area of effect - 11 (maybe 12) power - 13 (emission 12 absorption 14/15) Overall 12.25 to 12.5
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Post by creator on Aug 22, 2011 13:10:54 GMT -5
Damage - Fusion energy Distance -12 Area of effect - 11 (maybe 12) power - 13 (emission 12 absorption 14/15) Overall 12.25 to 12.5 That seems pretty reasonable. I would rationalise it to Damage - Absorption/Fusion energyDistance -11 Area of effect - 12 Power - 15 Overall 14
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Post by creator on Aug 22, 2011 18:52:11 GMT -5
And here are a few more to review
Ms Marvel/(Binary) - Absorption - All/Light Distance: 8 (15) Area of Effect: 7 (14) Power Level: 8 (18) Overall: 8 (17)
Nova - Absorption/Gravity/Light Distance: 13 Area of Effect: 11 Power Level: 18 Overall: 15
Pheonix (J Grey) - All Distance: 29 Area of Effect: 29 Power Level: 30 Overall: 30
Power Girl - Heat Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 11 Power Level: 15 Overall: 11
Pyro - Flame Distance: 8 Area of Effect: 9 Power Level: 5 (Object) / 8 (Enhanced) Overall: 9
Red Hulk - Energy Absorption (non psionic or magical) Distance: 3 Area of Effect: 6 Power Level: 18 Overall: 12
Red Tornado - Wind Distance: 10 Area of Effect: 12 Power Level: 13 Overall: 12
Scorpion - Plasma (Object) Distance: 1 Area of Effect: 5 Power Level: 7 Overall: 5
Sentry - Light/Heat Distance: 15 Area of Effect: 19 Power Level: 20 Overall: 19
Sinestro - Force Distance: 18 Area of Effect: 20 Power Level: 20 Overall: 20
Siryn - Sonic Distance: 6 Area of Effect: 8 Power Level: 9 Overall: 8
Stardust - Power Cosmic Distance: 16 Area of Effect: 19 Power Level: 18 Overall: 18
Storm - Electromagnetism/Thermal/Wind Distance: 16 Area of Effect: 19 Power Level: 16 Overall: 17
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 23, 2011 3:55:18 GMT -5
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