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Post by Geraldthesloth on Aug 26, 2011 16:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by creator on Aug 26, 2011 17:07:06 GMT -5
I think it's a balance between the energy Quasar has in his form(or bands) vs the energy he could draw on (from his opponent or from an external source).
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Post by Geraldthesloth on Aug 26, 2011 18:41:09 GMT -5
Well the energy he can draw for his bands comes from a practically unlimited source, it's never been stated how much can exactly be tapped.
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Post by creator on Aug 27, 2011 4:41:04 GMT -5
Well the energy he can draw for his bands comes from a practically unlimited source, it's never been stated how much can exactly be tapped. The bands store energy and have a limited capacity without tapping an external source (which includes his opponent). This is why Phyla-Vell was shown to have limited energy reserves if she could not link to an external source. Mark Gruenwald stated as much in his precise on Quasar's powers, most of which appears to hold true even today. The precise is located on the same Quasar respect thread you linked the images from.
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Post by vuviper on Aug 29, 2011 20:40:00 GMT -5
Here are some more characters Firelord – Heat / FlameDistance: 15 (Shown to affect fire in space over thousands of miles) Area of Effect: 19 (Can influence large solar flares) Power Level: 18 (Generate equivalent to solar flares) Overall: 18 Very Cool thread, I will want to look through all of this. Just something I noticed. I don't know if the artwork contradicts me in the case of Firelord influencing solar flares, but the large ones can by many many times larger than a planet.
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Post by Geraldthesloth on Aug 29, 2011 21:00:48 GMT -5
Well the energy he can draw for his bands comes from a practically unlimited source, it's never been stated how much can exactly be tapped. The bands store energy and have a limited capacity without tapping an external source (which includes his opponent). This is why Phyla-Vell was shown to have limited energy reserves if she could not link to an external source. Mark Gruenwald stated as much in his precise on Quasar's powers, most of which appears to hold true even today. The precise is located on the same Quasar respect thread you linked the images from. Cool, was it stated in the same set with Phyla? If so it's probably why I haven't seen it due to a huge dislike of that character.
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Post by creator on Aug 30, 2011 6:30:51 GMT -5
Cool, was it stated in the same set with Phyla? If so it's probably why I haven't seen it due to a huge dislike of that character. No, it was in the Wendell Quasar thread - at the bottom of the first posting from the thread maker I think. It shows as a PDF attachment. Makes for intertesting reading.
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Post by creator on Aug 30, 2011 6:35:04 GMT -5
Very Cool thread, I will want to look through all of this. Just something I noticed. I don't know if the artwork contradicts me in the case of Firelord influencing solar flares, but the large ones can by many many times larger than a planet. Thank you. Please look through this and the other Power Grids, all of which are listed in the original thread, thecomicsledger.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gcc&action=display&thread=2519Please submit and add anything you can. More grids will be posted soon.
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Post by creator on Aug 31, 2011 13:51:17 GMT -5
After discussion with Beatboks a review of Alan Scott's ratings seems to be closer to the following,
Alan Scott - Force Distance: 23 Area of Effect: 21 Power Level: 22 Overall: 22
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Post by ckal on Aug 31, 2011 14:56:43 GMT -5
Very Cool thread, I will want to look through all of this. Just something I noticed. I don't know if the artwork contradicts me in the case of Firelord influencing solar flares, but the large ones can by many many times larger than a planet. Yeah like creator said, be sure to check out all of the other Power Grid threads that have been released so far. Feel free to make any input or suggestions on any of them for any character, the more populating we get the better!
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 31, 2011 16:19:41 GMT -5
What about Dr. Manhattan? Anyone willing to take a stab at him?
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Post by creator on Aug 31, 2011 16:22:38 GMT -5
I can give you Geo-Force's respect thread to look at. This grid is a bit too much for me to give an accurate judgement. I'm not a very good judge of distance and such. Same with Creeper's Sonic Laugh and Black Condor's Wind Manipulation. I've reviewed Geo-Force's respect thread feats and think the following may be accurate but let me know what you think. Geo-Force - Gravity/HeatDistance: 5 (shown to manipulate gravity at range) Area of Effect: 9 (has effected gravity over an area dozens of metres square) Power Level: 8 (project heat capable of easily melting steel and stone) Overall: 8 The Creeper scream / laugh appears to have 2 properties. Not only is it exceptionally loud, proving capable of shattering toughened glass and some rigid polymers but then it also has a paralytic / psychedelic quality. This particular power grid is set to measure simply energy and so cannot represent the paralytic qualities. This quality would be better represented on a future power grid that will represent the effects of "influencing" others I.e. The effect of pheromones. So for this grid I will record only the sonic damage effects of the scream. Creeper - SonicDistance: 1 (his scream is uncontrolled after he emits it) Area of Effect: 7 (can effect a large crowd of people) Power Level: 4 (capable of shattering toughened glass and polymers) Overall: 4 Black Condor's wind control is difficult to estimate from the limited examples shown. Do we have any more examples of the force he can generate or the distance he can control winds over ?
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Post by creator on Aug 31, 2011 16:40:05 GMT -5
What about Dr. Manhattan? Anyone willing to take a stab at him? I would love to take a stab at him but I truthfully don't think he belongs on this particular grid as I think his powers rest solely or in the main with matter manipulation. Yes energy and matter manipulation are extremely closely linked and for some characters like the Silver Surfer, they use both powers interchangeably, but I don't think Manhattan does. Most of the feats I recall him doing can be construed as matter manipulation. The grid for which is forming on my laptop even now Does this seem reasonable ?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Aug 31, 2011 16:41:26 GMT -5
yes, it seems entirely reasonable to me at least.
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 31, 2011 16:46:35 GMT -5
What about Dr. Manhattan? Anyone willing to take a stab at him? I would love to take a stab at him but I truthfully don't think he belongs on this particular grid as I think his powers rest solely or in the main with matter manipulation. Yes energy and matter manipulation are extremely closely linked and for some characters like the Silver Surfer, they use both powers interchangeably, but I don't think Manhattan does. Most of the feats I recall him doing can be construed as matter manipulation. The grid for which is forming on my laptop even now Does this seem reasonable ? I am not an expert on him so I do not really mind. Though I do know he was deliberately based on Captain Atom and (at least in the movie) his energy is used to make what I can only think to call "quantum explosions". But again, that is the movie version....
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Post by creator on Aug 31, 2011 17:04:34 GMT -5
yes, it seems entirely reasonable to me at least. Good. I am not an expert on him so I do not really mind. Though I do know he was deliberately based on Captain Atom and (at least in the movie) his energy is used to make what I can only think to call "quantum explosions". But again, that is the movie version.... I had that in my mind too (about Capt Atom) but i think the quantum explosions can result from atomic manipulation at a sub-atomic level. But that's only my best guess
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 31, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
Well you got me beat on that Mr. Scientist. I am sure you would know better than me on that if you were running a temperature of 104 and had a severe concussion.
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Post by ckal on Aug 31, 2011 17:56:56 GMT -5
Well you got me beat on that Mr. Scientist. I am sure you would know better than me on that if you were running a temperature of 104 and had a severe concussion. What happened to you?
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 31, 2011 20:55:46 GMT -5
Well you got me beat on that Mr. Scientist. I am sure you would know better than me on that if you were running a temperature of 104 and had a severe concussion. What happened to you? Why whatever do you mean?
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Post by ckal on Aug 31, 2011 21:14:16 GMT -5
Lol I just realized I mis-read that. I thought you said you had a 104 degree fever and a concussion. It sounds like a terrible mix which is why I wanted to know what happened. I was wondering if we had another drinking night which could easily result in that.
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