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Post by Gender on Aug 10, 2011 21:22:09 GMT -5
I'm more so disappointed that he was in the verge of collapsing while Hulk was hurt, but not KOd despite being hammered to orbit. The admission that he can't beat Hulk, and he never could, all the while not 10 days ago Fraction had him say he wouldn't mind killing Silver Surfer is asinine. Still, fighting a very much upgraded Hulk along with the Thing and winning was a great feat, despite those annoyances. I can't say I disagree with the whole nonsense behind the admission, when a moment ago he was seemingly pummeling the Hulk who can't even hit him after Angrir was down, due to a massive hole in his torso made by Mjolnir. Either Thor was significantly more hurt from his earlier slam by Nul and Angrir to his back / head or he some how just completely exhausted himself just hitting the Hulk, who he was clearly hurting. Which doesn't quite make much sense given his stamina and somehow that knock into orbit completely drained him. If Thor was fighting the Hulk as he was the Surfer, the Hulk would have found himself being hammered into Mars by a blur, rather then just getting smacked around in mid air and pummeled into orbit. Not the first time Thor's beaten the Thing and Hulk together, would have been nice if the fight ended much the same way with something stemming out of the Hulk's back. |
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Post by ckal on Aug 10, 2011 23:04:54 GMT -5
I'm more so disappointed that he was in the verge of collapsing while Hulk was hurt, but not KOd despite being hammered to orbit. The admission that he can't beat Hulk, and he never could, all the while not 10 days ago Fraction had him say he wouldn't mind killing Silver Surfer is asinine. Still, fighting a very much upgraded Hulk along with the Thing and winning was a great feat, despite those annoyances. My feelings exactly. Hulk was bleeding from a couple hits from Mjolnir, then gets BFR'd into orbit, and looks fine. That and Thor 'admitting' he could never beat Hulk when he just took it to an upgraded Hulk and Thing at the same time is ridiculous. Killed Thing and was beating up Hulk and making him bleed. And the SS thing that morph mentioned. Plus, Franklin Richards is going to be the one man retcon machine that will wipe Fear Itself from existence in the last issue. |
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Post by ckal on Aug 10, 2011 23:08:52 GMT -5
Yeah and Thor being completely drained doesn't make any sense either. He got hit twice but looked fine. He wasn't even bleeding. I was disappointed myself that Thor didn't kill Hulk, but there are still two more issues left. Maybe he will.
I was expecting Hulk to die, because Hulk's new series with Silvestri and I forget the writer deals with Hulk and Banner being completely separate entities. I figure Hulk dying and being brought back and his personalities somehow splitting apart would make sense. We will see in the next two months I guess. I know Hulk is fighting Dracula next month.
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Post by Gender on Aug 11, 2011 2:45:45 GMT -5
My feelings exactly. Hulk was bleeding from a couple hits from Mjolnir, then gets BFR'd into orbit, and looks fine. That and Thor 'admitting' he could never beat Hulk when he just took it to an upgraded Hulk and Thing at the same time is ridiculous. Killed Thing and was beating up Hulk and making him bleed. And the SS thing that morph mentioned. Plus, Franklin Richards is going to be the one man retcon machine that will wipe Fear Itself from existence in the last issue. While I agree Thor was the clear victor in that fight as the Hulk couldn't even tag him when Thor mauled him I looked at the last page again. "To..be...continued...Banner" - sort of saying this is the same fight they've had a dozen times before without a clear winner and it hasn't ended yet. No matter what Thor hits him with the Hulk gets back up and Thor acknowledged that as pretty the same song and dance. Even if I still believe what Thor said contradicts what happened on panel, a dozen times over. Attachments:
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Post by Death on Aug 11, 2011 5:12:39 GMT -5
Hulk fans are going to rage about this.
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Post by devias on Aug 11, 2011 6:58:27 GMT -5
Hulk fans are going to rage about this. Fortunately for us, I don't believe that there are many Hulk fanatics here. |
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Post by Death on Aug 11, 2011 8:42:10 GMT -5
True, but I feel sorry for the forums that have them.
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Post by NexusOfLight on Aug 11, 2011 23:11:23 GMT -5
Man, Thor is so tight. Ha, and Fraction is real clever. That whole "I can't beat you...never could" he wasn't sayin' Hulk was stronger than him, he was sayin' Marvel would never release a comic with a real winner between the two. Throughout their entire history, every fight they've had always ended in "to be continued." Hulk always fought, Thor always fought, and they'd keep fighting until the story wanted them to stop. And the same exact thing happened here. Fraction's real clever wit' dat.
"To be continued, Banner." Mang, I want a shirt with that on it. Thor walkin' like a boss.
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Post by ckal on Aug 11, 2011 23:56:53 GMT -5
Walkin like a boss until he passed out for some strange unexplained reason.
But yeah I can see what you're saying about the underlying statement.
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Post by NexusOfLight on Aug 12, 2011 7:00:09 GMT -5
Shoot, Thor can take nap for the rest of the event for all I care. That mess was just too hype. Mang, that junk deserves character of the month fo' real.
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Post by ckal on Aug 12, 2011 8:44:42 GMT -5
He's got my vote for next month.
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Post by ckal on Aug 17, 2011 20:48:41 GMT -5
JIM #626 was really good. I love how Gillen is bringing Surtur and the Destroyer into action! I honestly hope that Fear Itself is ended through Loki's efforts. Whether it's through Surtur fucking up the Serpent and Dark Asgard, the Destroyer, or both, I hope it plays a major role.
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Post by Gender on Aug 18, 2011 0:19:28 GMT -5
I've really been slacking in picking JIM. Glad to hear the Destroyer Armor hasn't been forgotten.
Still puzzled why Odin can't handle the Serpent on his own.
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Post by ckal on Aug 18, 2011 8:15:01 GMT -5
The serpent and his followers like to claim he is the true all father, and in JIM #626 one went as far as to say that he is more powerful than Odin.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 18, 2011 8:16:02 GMT -5
Didn't the Serpent himself say the same? It was also repeated in Iron Man # 507.
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Post by Gender on Aug 18, 2011 17:47:41 GMT -5
The serpent and his followers like to claim he is the true all father, and in JIM #626 one went as far as to say that he is more powerful than Odin. When has this ever stopped Odin from charging into battle? Even then, Odin has the Destroyer, Odin Sword and an entire league of Skyfathers to call him up to back him. The only reason the Olympians seem to be sitting this one out is because Odin is. I'm hoping there will be some sort of revelation in Mighty Thor that explains Odin's complete fear of someone he should have all the tools at his disposal to take down. |
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Post by ckal on Aug 18, 2011 19:40:13 GMT -5
Odin does not have the Destroyer at his disposal after the events of JIM #626.
What other Skyfathers? Isn't Zeus dead and Herc is depowered. I don't think guys like Hades, Poseiden, etc (Zeus' brothers) ever do anything in Marvel comics.
Odin has said that he is using the current strategy because he has said multiple times that nobody knows what he had to do to beat the Serpent the first time, and that it was grim. So according to his words, this is the only strategy for beating the Serpent, or the only road he is willing to take.
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Post by Gender on Aug 18, 2011 23:08:46 GMT -5
Odin does not have the Destroyer at his disposal after the events of JIM #626. What other Skyfathers? Isn't Zeus dead and Herc is depowered. I don't think guys like Hades, Poseiden, etc (Zeus' brothers) ever do anything in Marvel comics. Odin has said that he is using the current strategy because he has said multiple times that nobody knows what he had to do to beat the Serpent the first time, and that it was grim. So according to his words, this is the only strategy for beating the Serpent, or the only road he is willing to take. So they took the Destroyer out of the picture? Well there goes that easy win for Odin. Zeus came back with the rest of the Universe when Herc recreated it after Chaos War. That's why we got that little treat of Zeus just pummeling the Hulk with his bear hands recently( You saw this in Pak's recent mini's first issue too with the Surfer). Herc himself is still depowered, although apparently Zeus can re-empower him back to godhood. Herc #5 when Hercules calls on Zeus to help him save everyone, only to get Hermes that informs him how the Olympians are following Asgard's lead and not interfering and offers to bring Herc back, sweetening the deal with the opportunity to regain his godhood. There are more Skyfathers in Odin's phone book to call than just Zeus, as the other pantheons should be good to go. Lol I think Odin has just said that the one time only to have those words repeated in a lot of tie-ins. Fraction seems to be dumbing down Odin to his multitude of options to take outside fry humanity and hide in Asgard. How hard could the Serpent be to beat just after breaking free? The guy could hardly walk and when you have Odin one day duke it out with Galactus then hiding out in Asgard the next at someone that should be at their weakest it's a little silly. I'm just hoping some kind of reveal that will make sense of Odin's fear of the Serpent pops in Mighty Thor. |
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Post by NexusOfLight on Sept 3, 2011 0:09:31 GMT -5
Ha ha, Pastor Mike's 'bout ta spread the Good News to Galactus. Let's go.
I like how the events in Mighty Thor are leading into Fear Itself. We know that the Serpent is Odin's brother, or close kin to him. This seed Galactus and Odin are fighting over is apparently tied up pretty closely with the prophecy of the Serpent. Volstagg is still a boss. Things're goin' good.
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Post by Comic Sledger on Sept 3, 2011 14:04:38 GMT -5
I don't know (or particularly care) what old Thor fans think, but I've never liked Thor more than I do now. I've tried to like him before (quite a few times) but nothing I've read, aside from Ult Thor, has ever appealed to me. The way he's been written lately is good though. People talk smack about Fraction, but the way he writes Thor works for me. That's specifically Thor now, not other characters or stories (Fear Itself is a waste of good art). His characterization of Thor is good in the main event and how I've been seeing him in Mighty Thor, and I'd say the same for Odin as well. I don't know when Thor started sporting this demeanor he's got now, but I like it. On a related note, I'm loving Loki. That's not too surprising though because I liked Loki before, but how he's being handled in Journey into Mystery is perfect in my eyes. This good be the perfect time for me to become a Thor fan cuz if he dies, he won't be there to get ruined. At least for a little while.
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