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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 20:55:26 GMT -5
A zombie apocalypse cannot happen. Then zombies won't make it past a three digit number before they are wiped out and people return to screwing themselves over the old fashioned way. Unless people start capping everyone they see regardless of whether or not they are a zombie, that is unlikely.
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Post by Painkiller on Sept 26, 2011 21:08:46 GMT -5
I disagree with some of the points on that link.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 21:18:33 GMT -5
So do I.
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Post by Painkiller on Sept 26, 2011 21:34:20 GMT -5
For one thing, if a large animal like a bear or wild cat were to attack a zombie, they would get covered in zombie blood, so they'd either become infected or die.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 21:46:54 GMT -5
For one thing, if a large animal like a bear or wild cat were to attack a zombie, they would get covered in zombie blood, so they'd either become infected or die. I find it unlikely that those animals would attack rotting meat anyway. And even if they did, they would not attack a herd of rotting meat that attack back. In most zombie stuff, animals are immune. Which makes sense for most cases because disease seldom is transmutable from animal to human (with few exceptions).
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Post by Painkiller on Sept 26, 2011 21:56:01 GMT -5
For one thing, if a large animal like a bear or wild cat were to attack a zombie, they would get covered in zombie blood, so they'd either become infected or die. I find it unlikely that those animals would attack rotting meat anyway. And even if they did, they would not attack a herd of rotting meat that attack back. In most zombie stuff, animals are immune. Which makes sense for most cases because disease seldom is transmutable from animal to human (with few exceptions). I've heard that the infection actually kills them.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 22:07:33 GMT -5
Never heard of that. Which zombie movie/comic/game did you hear that from?
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Post by Painkiller on Sept 26, 2011 22:15:50 GMT -5
That quiz I posted a while back, one of the questions was: ''What happends when an animal is bitten by a zombie?''
The correct answer was ''They die from the infection''.
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Post by djSWIZZLE on Sept 26, 2011 22:21:45 GMT -5
For one thing, if a large animal like a bear or wild cat were to attack a zombie, they would get covered in zombie blood, so they'd either become infected or die. I find it unlikely that those animals would attack rotting meat anyway. And even if they did, they would not attack a herd of rotting meat that attack back. In most zombie stuff, animals are immune. Which makes sense for most cases because disease seldom is transmutable from animal to human (with few exceptions). Yes, because decaying and decomposing muscle structures would do a whole hell of a lot to anything, really. Realistically, Zombies wouldn't even be able to walk.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 22:36:38 GMT -5
It takes a while before the decay of the human body compromises its integrity. Assuming it is not previously damaged. Besides that, those that have just recently turned are likely to be stronger than when they were alive just because they no longer stop pushing themselves to prevent damage.
Realistically, zombies will never exist but that is not really what the article was about. It was assuming that part of fiction was true.
Assuming zombies could be real, it would take days or even weeks to decay to the point where walking was impossible.
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Post by Gender on Sept 26, 2011 23:24:12 GMT -5
I feel like someone might have been watching / reading some Highschool of the Dead in this thread.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 26, 2011 23:26:34 GMT -5
I feel like someone might have been watching / reading some Highschool of the Dead in this thread. Never even heard of it.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Sept 27, 2011 3:33:08 GMT -5
The point on animals hunting zombies I thought was pretty stupid too, but it does have a few good points. Like that fact that biting people is a retardedly bad way to spread disease. Zombies are really not clearly defined or anything, so there are plenty of different versions of them and possibilities on how the outbreak may occur, but assuming it starts out from a single source, I have a hard believing it would do much before the army rolls in starts moving the fuckers down.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 27, 2011 4:56:22 GMT -5
The point on animals hunting zombies I thought was pretty stupid too, but it does have a few good points. Like that fact that biting people is a retardedly bad way to spread disease. Zombies are really not clearly defined or anything, so there are plenty of different versions of them and possibilities on how the outbreak may occur, but assuming it starts out from a single source, I have a hard believing it would do much before the army rolls in starts moving the fuckers down. I challenge that with the government's speed on getting supplies to refugees after Katrina. And considering how fast it always seems to spread, the army would only be able to protect themselves at best and at worse, would crumble under the knowledge they are cutting down their own people.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Sept 27, 2011 5:09:47 GMT -5
I challenge that with the government's speed on getting supplies to refugees after Katrina. I think that's a rather different situation. The issue here is establishing a quarantine, not organizing relief, and governments tend to be fairly good at that. Granted, but that was rather my point. It shouldn't spread that fast. But whatever, most movies handwave that away, so I suppose we can too.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Sept 27, 2011 9:08:08 GMT -5
I feel like someone might have been watching / reading some Highschool of the Dead in this thread. I own both animé and Manga. ;D
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Sept 27, 2011 9:11:33 GMT -5
I'm fairly good in dire situations. Improvisation is one of my strongest points. If I heard on the news that there was on outbreak. I just check forums and youtube. Or look out my window. No need to react right away like I know a lot of morons will. But I bet the world will be a better place without them ;D I'd see a gun as a last resort. No point in going out and finding them and getting a cut. If there is a crowd of them, don't shoot them. Throw fire at them. Then that'll spread onto the others and they'll die...again.
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 27, 2011 15:01:54 GMT -5
You guys are all talking as if the Zombie outbreak is going to explode right outside your doorstep. What if it happens across the country? You may very well have plenty of time to take care of loved ones and such. Would you head initial warnings or would you only take it serious once it got closer? Based on all the zombie movies I have seen, world wide outbreaks happen within 24 hours. By the time news gets out about what is going on, the likelihood that your suburb area is rife with undead is almost guaranteed. Realistically I just can't see it spreading that fast. Zombies are relatively slow. It would take zombies weeks if not months to cross states. Zombies once truned into zombies cannot operate vehicles or other modes of transport to spread and one or two people who are bitten and move to a new city before they turn are not going to start an outbreak in any civilized city before they are all blown to bits. I just can't see the disease moving that quickly unless you could pioint out to me how that would happen.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 27, 2011 15:35:48 GMT -5
I challenge that with the government's speed on getting supplies to refugees after Katrina. I think that's a rather different situation. The issue here is establishing a quarantine, not organizing relief, and governments tend to be fairly good at that. Granted, but that was rather my point. It shouldn't spread that fast. But whatever, most movies handwave that away, so I suppose we can too. Here is the problem with a government setting up a quarantine. They have to know there is an outbreak first. At first it would only seems like a few random acts of violence peppered across the country. Then it snowballs with lightning speed. The reason why it spreads so fast is because in today's world, we have the convenience of travel speed. Would you quarentine a state or city off if there was a bar fight in one section and some John Doe attacking people in the streets? No of course not. Then there is the fact that most of these people do not go to hospitals immediately after said attack or fight unless the injury is serious. Someone scratches you in a fight, you do not go to the hospital. You go about your life as if nothing happens. Sometimes that means catching a flight to some other part of the world. Then bam, you are comatose in hours and you die either in the privacy of your lodgings or you manage to make in into a hospital. Both are great places to spread the zombification. In a hospital when people die, they are not immediately shuttled down to the morgue in most cases. A hospital is an extremely busy place. Sometimes it takes hours. But if someone does come back postmortem and are violent, nurses, orderlies and doctors jump in to restrain. That puts them at risk. There is no reason to suspect that someone that is violent is a zombie. These would look coincidental until it is far too big for a government to step in and control. Especially when this would travel extremely fast. But then there is The Walking Dead's take on it as we are all already infected. Well then there is no help at all. Not only would we be dealing with the killed coming back, but we would have to worry about those coming back who were not bitten or scratched at all. People that died of dysentery would be rushing at you with shit all over themselves and your very last thought would be that they are a zombie.
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Post by Erik-El on Sept 27, 2011 15:38:35 GMT -5
Based on all the zombie movies I have seen, world wide outbreaks happen within 24 hours. By the time news gets out about what is going on, the likelihood that your suburb area is rife with undead is almost guaranteed. Realistically I just can't see it spreading that fast. Zombies are relatively slow. It would take zombies weeks if not months to cross states. Zombies once truned into zombies cannot operate vehicles or other modes of transport to spread and one or two people who are bitten and move to a new city before they turn are not going to start an outbreak in any civilized city before they are all blown to bits. I just can't see the disease moving that quickly unless you could pioint out to me how that would happen. See my above post. Most people travel without knowing they are even infected. A person in a city can cross it in most cases in a day on foot at a regular pace. Now add the fact that at first the infected will not be thought of as zombies. They will be thought of as rioters or some such. They run really fast and if you get unknowingly infected and want to bounce out of town to escape the "rioters" you just jumped in your car and carried the infection to a new place in minutes to hours.
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