Decoy Elite
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Post by Decoy Elite on Feb 23, 2011 23:42:23 GMT -5
I still require good explanations, tasteful ones even if they are fictional and unscientific. Logan's powers don't have that, it annoys me. Can you give a good explanation for a characters powers(besides magic based powers)?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 23, 2011 23:49:08 GMT -5
Sure, Iron Man, super-suit made of special alloy, super-boosters etc. By all science it wouldn't work, but whatever, for a comic it's quite sufficient for me.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Feb 25, 2011 15:00:07 GMT -5
The main problem with healing factors is that they are too inconsistent. By rights, Logan should never be a challenge to Hulk because Hulk's regeneration should eliminate any slash wounds caused almost instantaneously. As Vance pointed out, Deadpool has withstood blows from powerhouse characters but has still been dropped by bullets...
There need to be set parameters on them, and none of this being burned to a skeleton nonsense.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 25, 2011 15:02:15 GMT -5
Personally I think most of the X-men need to be rewritten as characters, and their setting universe needs a total retcon not to be retarded anymore.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Feb 25, 2011 15:07:31 GMT -5
Personally I think most of the X-men need to be rewritten as characters, and their setting universe needs a total retcon not to be retarded anymore. Yes, lets ignore all those years of character development and just retcon everything including the universe itself. I mean it's not like anyone likes the X-Men, well, except for their huge fanbase.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 25, 2011 15:11:41 GMT -5
cter development and just retcon everything including the universe itself. I mean it's not like anyone likes the X-Men, well, except for their huge fanbase. I don't care about the huge fanbase or what they think. I don't like them and find their setting retarded. Let them piss and cry for all I give a fuck, it would be worth it to fix everything that makes me hate them in general.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Feb 25, 2011 15:16:24 GMT -5
cter development and just retcon everything including the universe itself. I mean it's not like anyone likes the X-Men, well, except for their huge fanbase. I don't care about the huge fanbase or what they think. I don't like them and find their setting retarded. Let them piss and cry for all I give a fuck, it would be worth it to fix everything that makes me hate them in general. You're literally saying. "Because I don't like it they should change." That's bullshit, writers should listen to what their fans want first, not someone who doesn't even read the stories or like any of the characters.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 25, 2011 15:21:47 GMT -5
You're literally saying. "Because I don't like it they should change." No, I'm saying, the characters and setting are bad, period and they should be changed. That's bullshit, writers should listen to what their fans want first, not someone who doesn't even read the stories or like any of the characters. No actually they should listen to those who don't read them or like them. So they can understand why they aren't more popular then they are and attract a bigger fanbase. Rather then just keep giving the same bad stuff they do and only keep the same fans around (also X-Men has diminished in it's fan base) I was once a huge X-men fan, then I grew up, realized everything that was wrong with them and started hating them. A lot of comic readers went that way.
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Post by Silver on Feb 25, 2011 15:22:12 GMT -5
Characters like Lobo or Silver Surfer or Martian Manhunter all have insane regeneration. Lobo is probably second to none in regeneration. He regrows his entire body from a puddle of blood. Does that make sense? Not really, but the difference is that he has the excuse of having a status as being banned from heaven and hell, meaning he is completely immune to death. Thus, he should recuperate from such thorough damage, because his body survives the trauma. Also, Lobo is a semi-joke character; so that adds to it as well. With the Surfer, he has been rendered unconscious by energy attacks and blunt force trauma, but at the same time, his body has regrown from being torn apart. While this makes no reasonable sense since being ripped to shreds should be more physically harming than blunt force or energy attacks that, while incapacitating, still leave his body intact, for the most part at least, he at least has the cop out of "the Power Cosmic works in mysterious ways." There is nothing biological about his ability to heal from injuries; it simply relates to the nature of his power (and, after all, "Power Cosmic" is just code for "does anything" ). With Martian Manhunter, he is similar to Surfer in that he would never be defeated by having his body torn to pieces but can still be beaten or blasted into unconsciousness. In his case though, J'onn is a shape shifter who can reduce his size to microscopic proportions; purposefully break his body into numerous pieces and then reassemble himself; and change his form into basically anything. So his healing factor is the result of both a high regeneration rate and control over his own physical form. But with some other characters, like Shaggy Man, Wolverine, or Deadpool, they have no real explanation given. Shaggy Man's only description is that his body is supposed to be self-sustained, as he survived in space on an asteroid for months and has regrown limbs during combat. That is illogical, but at the same time, it could be worse. He could be melted down to a skeleton and still operate. With Deadpool. I guess the same applies for him as it does to Lobo, his being more or less immune to death and his being a semi-joke character. So I guess his is a little more excusable, but he can fairly inconsistent with it. So, like I said, there just needs to be more set parameters, like in Surfer's case, he can regenerate from portions of himself but can still be beaten by energy or blunt force. Consistency as a general rule of thumb would help also.
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